Why do males complain about female-led stories or too many female characters when the majority are still dominated by males?
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Anime is great if you want you kids to think they are supposed to surrounded by a harem of women so possessive of their crush that they can't function for themselves without that crush their site reason for existing, more often than not
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I do not have a problem with a female lead in a show. One thing that may be overlooked her is when they make a movie with a female lead and make a bad movie.
My wife watches a lot of spy, military action type movies. A lot of the time, the stories are poorly written and cheesy when they put a female lead in the show.
One example of this was a movie where the girls dad who died was CIA. His daughter somehow ends up involved in some CIA thing and is able to survive the whole thing even though she has no formal training. So, while this issue occurs with male leads, there are fewer movies like this with female leads so it may look like there is a higher percentage of movies with female leads that people do not like.
Look at the movies with female leads that are great, (Almost anything with Michelle Yeoh), Star Trek Discovery, Star Trek Lower Decks, hidden figures, Alien, Zero Dark Thirty. I am sure there are more that I can't think of.
I think that the female lead may get blamed for a bad movie, or people just don't like bad movies and it is assumed it is because it is a female lead.
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The imbalance in numbers isn't just in movies. Think about the judiciary, legislators, business leaders... It's everywhere. In my own career I was the first woman to hold a senior position with one of my employers. Crazy. Achieving even what we have has been uphill all the way. I'm glad you've woken up to this - maybe you can keep spreading the word!
How do I feel about it? Really fucking exhausted. It's not just the movies, it's my everyday life. Being patronised, talked over, ignored, belittled... Ugh. A lot of men seem to outright despise women. On the bright side, most of this behaviour comes from men of my own generation (I'm old). Young men in general seem much less arrogant, more respectful of women. My sister suggested this is because we remind them of their grannies, lol, but they speak well about women their own age too, and regard them as equals. (Apart from this one young bloke who talked about "women and other minorities", sigh.)
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Men that are scared of women leads are pussies
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Context matters. "Male/female" is objectifying and can be used for "objects" like jobs. "Men/women" is more personal and should be used for people. The poster is using almost exclusively "male/female" even where "men/women" should be used, which leads to some clunkiness.
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Yea, idk maybe I'll have moments of introspection but the default should be the flippant response I gave. OP, don't give more then you want to people like that. Tell them to put in the work to be better or just leave them to their pud.
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I agree with your reasoning but I think it highlights a major difference between genders in those stories. The hulk has decades of backstory that lets you just throw him into any plot as a badass. You don't need to invent why he's a badass because we all know it and the origin story is so played out that we all gloss over it. Now do that with a female character. Writing the equivalent to decades of lore in one origin story and then doing something with that origin in the same movie is way harder. Wonder Woman would be kinda similar but those origins are muddy with misogyny vibes. So now you have to use well established S tier characters to garner attention and bring in a fresh female face of similar calibar of power and act like they earned decades of respect in one movie. Either you're Mary sue or treated like a child in those situations. The lore fights female empowerment because of baggage. I feel sorry for anyone trying to write for a character like she hulk with all of the obstacles that exist, but I get why the attempts weren't successful.
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This isn't an excuse for the difference, but I wonder how exposure bias played into their perception. If a person was more accustomed to men in a specific situation and a woman "surprised them" by being involved, it could lead to time passing being perceived as longer. It would be similar to how any new experience is often perceived as taking longer than a familiar one in the same time period. Underrepresentation of women in that scenario would support it.
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I've had excellent and poor women leaders. The difference with a poor male leader, I could argue with them head-to-head, no harm no foul. But with a poor female leader, if I argue head-to-head I'm suddenly hurting their feelings or being misogynistic.
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I remember I was watching the show Batwoman or Batgirl or whatever it's called, and all of a sudden they just replaced the lead character with a black women. Like wtf happened there, literally just yoinker her and replaced her.
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Why do males complain about female-led stories
They don't? Or are you taking 4chan and Twitter as representative of the whole videogame audience?
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A couple of month ago I was volunteering in my youth centre. We always have the radio on. On air was an interview of a female author writing about a woman and her struggles as a mom and wife, falling for another man. The male interviewer had the audacity to ask if there are any themes in the book which could interest him as a male reader (imagine a very condescending tone).
Reducing “female” themes to lesser themes is so annoying, hurtful and stupid.
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It's a wild world.
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Eh, the character was written as "Ripley", sex unspecified. IIRC none of the characters had their gender written into the screenplay and it was intentional.
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Have you read A Memory Called Empire yet? It's amazing.
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This is just making excuses for poor writing. You can make powerful characters but yiu need justification. That's why ppl didn't like Rey. She had very little justification for her power, plus she completely eclipsed the storm trooper rebel plot which was actually interesting.
It's especially bad when yiu use excuses like what she hulk did. I mean most ppl aren't going to appreciate a misandrist rant towards any character in a movie or series. Putting one in an MCU movie feels like genuine bait.
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Welcome to feminist media analysis. It's an existing academic field and you can find books and YouTube videos on it (and it can go pretty deep into related topics).
One of my favorite examples was when the creators of Avatar the Last Airbender were deciding to create their sequel about the next avatar they decided to make their protagonist a woman and executives at nickelodeon complained that boys wouldn't be able to relate to a female protagonist.
The explanation I've largely heard that makes sense to me is that women are taught women are generally expected to learn to empathathize with male protagonists whereas the inverse is much more optional. You have plenty of men who do get into wonder woman and she ra and korra, my childhood best friends are among them, but you also get a lot of men who don't in a way where I can't think of an inverse that I've seen
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I don't know understand how the genders of the lead characters is important in any way. It's not as if the films were about the genders of the characters.
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Man Lower Decks was fucking awsome. Loved it!
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I mean, it's just shorter than saying "women and girls" and "men and boys" if all female and male persons are the subject, not just adults
