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    I remember the that summer. Always wanted a Jamiroqoi hat

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    Always wanted a Jamiroqoi hat

    You'll have to be way more specific than that.

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      People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds. Like back in the day there were people saying the same thing about books when the printing press was invented

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      And they had a point. While the printing press (not books, those are way older) was a tool that could be used for good, many quickly realized that it gave propagandists a whole new set of tools to manipulate people with. Newspapers had a ridiculous amount of opinion-making power for quite a while there, they just got replaced by radio, TV, and then social media and now LLMs.

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        Before the modern web, before Wikipedia, before pocket computers, Encarta was the shit!

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        yeah i spent so much time reading random shit on it. to be fair i already did that with physical encyclopedias so it was natural. but the fact that Encarta allowed what's now known as wiki surfing was next level for me.

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          Reminds me of Serial Experiments Lain, an anime released in 1998 that talks about the power of social networks and how companies will compete to gain control of the internet. Some of the predictions are outstandingly good.

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          • zos_kia@lemmynsfw.comZ [email protected]

            We tried to cover it with my band, but it sounded really boring. Upon listening closely to it, I was surprised by how minimalist it actually is. I mean there's barely anything on the track! Some piano, some strings, and drum and bass of course.

            It was a happy surprise to find that it's one of those songs that are carried by the pure energy of the vocalist, which makes it very tricky to cover unless you go a very lateral route and "re-genre" it.

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            It starts minimal, but it does progressively fill out.

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              People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds.

              Because it does.
              Ask a 20yo to do simple math without using a calculator.
              The more "helping" technology we rely on, the stupider we become.

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              Ask a 20yo from the 70s to use Excel. Nobody could do that back then. How stupid.

              It's an equally wrong argument.

              People's skills adapt to what they need frequently. If they need something, they will learn how to do it and they will know how to do it. If they don't need it, they will lose it. Why would you want to keep maintaining a skill you don't need? It doesn't make you a better person.

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                https://xkcd.com/1227/

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                  Ask a 20yo from the 70s to use Excel. Nobody could do that back then. How stupid.

                  It's an equally wrong argument.

                  People's skills adapt to what they need frequently. If they need something, they will learn how to do it and they will know how to do it. If they don't need it, they will lose it. Why would you want to keep maintaining a skill you don't need? It doesn't make you a better person.

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                  Ask a 20yo from the 70s to use Excel.

                  You went backwards, i went forwards, slight difference there.
                  People are losing basic cognitive skills.

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                    People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds.

                    Because it does.
                    Ask a 20yo to do simple math without using a calculator.
                    The more "helping" technology we rely on, the stupider we become.

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                    When common core math was introduced across the US, I wanted to know what all the hubbub was about, so I looked into it. Funny that, despite so many parents decrying it, a few instruction pages ended up giving me (as an adult) the number sense that hadn't fully developed from my time in school. I use constructs from it all the time now and mental math has never been easier.

                    Calculators are great tools, but being able to do quick math in your head before everyone else can finish punching the numbers in makes people wonder if you have super powers.

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                      It's so strange for me, having been born in 1988, to hear someone not know who this guy is, and this song.

                      I fully understand that it's been just about 30 years since this came out, and there are multiple generations of kids that will never have heard it that are fully grown adults now.

                      Its just that this song was not only massive, one that everyone knew, but it lived on way past its release date, it was played on radio, tv, used in films and tv shows (silicon valley is a recent one of note). The same band also had a meme based on the film "napolean dynamite" with the song canned heat, which the main character did a dance to that made it into games such as world of warcraft and fortnite.

                      The band is a part of pop culture, and despite it all, there are still places in the world where people dont know instantly what this picture is from and who that is.

                      I get it. It just boggles my mind how vast the world is. Even 10 years ago there were people living in the north west of england asking who the beatles were. (Beatles are from liverpool in the north west of england and liverpool is littered with beatles murals, staturs and that kind of shit) its insane that anyone could not know who they are.

                      But hey ho. Just thinking out loud.

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                      I'm between 1 and 2 years older than you and I just found the song. As far as I can tell I've never heard it or anything about that dude before.

                      Not sure where I would have heard it... But I am pretty good at guess that tune from about 1970 to 2010 when I switched to streaming my own playlists.

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                        True, showing my age

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                        The other day I heard a Joe Walsh song playing from a coworker's phone on break, and I was ready to excitedly nerd out over classic rock with someone.

                        But my coworker went, "Who? It's a TikTok," and my enthusiasm deflated like a balloon.

                        I guess we're both showing our age. Sigh

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                          Ask a 20yo from the 70s to use Excel.

                          You went backwards, i went forwards, slight difference there.
                          People are losing basic cognitive skills.

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                          People are losing/not learning skills they don't need. That's it. They learn other skills instead, that they do need.

                          Everyone has basic photography and photo editing skills. Something most people really didn't have in the 70s. Most people know how to use a smartphone or a PC, again not something that the average person could do in the 70s.

                          Then again, in the 1890s most people knew how to handle a horse and hardly anyone knew how to control a car back then.

                          Even back in the late 1990s a large portion of the adults were afraid to touch a computer, because they thought it was some arcane magic, and now that's not an issue any more.

                          In the 80s and 90s, calligraphy was a quite common skill. Nowadays it's not necessary any more because if I want text to look nice, I print it.

                          There's no such thing as a "basic cognitive skill" that everyone needs to have in every circumstance throughout world history. Because stuff changes and skills that were super important 30 years ago just aren't nowadays.

                          Case in point, to return to your original argument: It was a common thing for pupils in the early 2000s to ask their teachers why they need to be able to do long division if they can just use a calculator instead, and the common answer was "You won't have a calculator in your pocket all the time". Well, we do now.

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                            It starts minimal, but it does progressively fill out.

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                            Not that much actually! There's not even any bass for the first verse, as it punches in at the first chorus. By the end, the strings appear to come a bit forward in the mix, and there are 2, maybe 3 additional vocal tracks but no additional instruments that I can hear.

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                              I'd been texting for a couple of years when this came out, and had just logged my first full year working as a web developer. The next 5 years or so felt amazing, hardware and software was improving so quickly on all fronts.

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                              Yeah, it was good times back then. Now the technlology has vastly exceeded our wildest dreams, yet it is under the control of greedy mega corporations, resulting in the most expensive shitty experience we have experienced so far.

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                                Looks like the The Expanse main character throwing a hat party inside the Rocinante.

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                                  People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds.

                                  Because it does.
                                  Ask a 20yo to do simple math without using a calculator.
                                  The more "helping" technology we rely on, the stupider we become.

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                                  joke's on you. I've always been stupid

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                                  • frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.worldF [email protected]

                                    Oh jfc teletext.. now that's a blast from the past. used to love reading it lol

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                                    i used to go on the jokes page. it was awesome. I miss teletext

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                                      It's so strange for me, having been born in 1988, to hear someone not know who this guy is, and this song.

                                      I fully understand that it's been just about 30 years since this came out, and there are multiple generations of kids that will never have heard it that are fully grown adults now.

                                      Its just that this song was not only massive, one that everyone knew, but it lived on way past its release date, it was played on radio, tv, used in films and tv shows (silicon valley is a recent one of note). The same band also had a meme based on the film "napolean dynamite" with the song canned heat, which the main character did a dance to that made it into games such as world of warcraft and fortnite.

                                      The band is a part of pop culture, and despite it all, there are still places in the world where people dont know instantly what this picture is from and who that is.

                                      I get it. It just boggles my mind how vast the world is. Even 10 years ago there were people living in the north west of england asking who the beatles were. (Beatles are from liverpool in the north west of england and liverpool is littered with beatles murals, staturs and that kind of shit) its insane that anyone could not know who they are.

                                      But hey ho. Just thinking out loud.

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                                      I was born in 1988 as well; I just don't recognize most musicians by their faces. (Is that a normal thing to do?) No need for the freak out.

                                      Sorry for not always seeing every music video for every popular song. My bad, yo.

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                                        I heard he wrote this song after visiting a fancy underground mall in Hong Kong/Japan and seeing how gnarly the tech was there at the time.

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                                          This song would probably be number one if a popular artist did a cover of it. It hits A LOT harder now

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