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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life?

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  • late_night@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

    Have you seen Babe? That's where that quote is from originally

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    I love that movie. Super disappointed that the pig was essentially a baby. They didn't have a adult pig in that movie to showcase how big they get.

    I wanted a pig as a pet but the smallest pigs are 150 lbs!

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    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

      Mine would be :

      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

      How about you?

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      "Who I am is where I stand.

      Where I stand is where I fall."

      -Steven Moffat, Doctor Who

      I have a lot of darkness in my head due to my upbringing. I'll never get it out. That doesn't stop me from being a good man, because who you are and what you'll be remembered as isn't your internal struggle, its what you chose to stand for in practice.

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      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

        Mine would be :

        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

        How about you?

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        "Trust no one - not even yourself"

        My dad told me this while going through a divorce. He was also going through a criminal trial due to his deviance.

        Its one thing that stuck with me and I wish it didn't.

        Another one is from Lenin: " 'There Are Decades Where Nothing Happens' and 'Weeks Where Decades Happen' "

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          "Who I am is where I stand.

          Where I stand is where I fall."

          -Steven Moffat, Doctor Who

          I have a lot of darkness in my head due to my upbringing. I'll never get it out. That doesn't stop me from being a good man, because who you are and what you'll be remembered as isn't your internal struggle, its what you chose to stand for in practice.

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          Props to you for actually attributing the quote to the writer and not the character. It's a pet peeve of mine when people take profound sounding quotes and attribute it to a fictional character that never existed, never had real thoughts or opinions of their own

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            "They say, 'Evil prevails when good men fail to act.' What they ought to say is, 'Evil prevails.'

            Bleak quote from Lord of War that has stuck with me. Reminds me of Sophie Scholl.

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            I am reminded of:
            "The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone."

            The lesser known conclusion to Wilhoits Law.

            https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/

            "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

            There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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            • T [email protected]

              I've heard that something like 67.3% of statistics are made up on the spot and 95.2% of people believe then whether they're accurate or not - especially if there's a decimal involved.

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              Even if its not straigh up made up, data can be easily manipulated by omission of other data, disingenous presentation (countries military spending graphs for example), outdated methodology, or straigh up meaningless indexes (freedom index lmao).

              There are just way too many ways to manipulate data to paint a narrative.

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                Props to you for actually attributing the quote to the writer and not the character. It's a pet peeve of mine when people take profound sounding quotes and attribute it to a fictional character that never existed, never had real thoughts or opinions of their own

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                Thank you! I try to, even though at the end of the day the best you can do is the show runner that signed off on it, as you'll never really know who invented it in the writer's room.

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                • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                  Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                  Mine would be :

                  "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                  For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                  Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                  How about you?

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                  "Nobody will take care of you if you don't take care of yourself"

                  Apply this to pushing back on contracts, double checking what you're asked to do, and putting yourself first, and you'll get a lot more respect in my experience. If you primarily put others first, your self will feel neglected. It doesn't mean you should not care for others, but that your highest priority should be yourself, and then others.

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                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                    Mine would be :

                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                    How about you?

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                    #104

                    I would rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned.

                    Richard Feynman

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                    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                      Mine would be :

                      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                      How about you?

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                      #105

                      Never tie your identity to something that can be taken away. Re: job title, salary, perceived status. Your self perceived identity should have a much more stable foundation.

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                      • deadninja@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        "Hurt people hurt people"

                        Ever since I heard this, I became relatively more compassionate towards people, even if they piss me off.

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                        This makes a song I've been listening to make more sense. "Gary" by Dave Hause. I was interpreting the line as "Hurt People. Hurt people..." Instead of "Hurt people hurt people". Thanks!

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                          Props to you for actually attributing the quote to the writer and not the character. It's a pet peeve of mine when people take profound sounding quotes and attribute it to a fictional character that never existed, never had real thoughts or opinions of their own

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                          I agree it's good to credit a writer, but the attribution should also include the character so the quote has context. For example, I would want there to be a distinction between a comment I made in real life and a line I wrote for a psychotic character to say.

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                          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                            Mine would be :

                            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                            How about you?

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                            #108

                            You are under no obligation to be the same person you were five minutes ago. - Alan Watts

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                            • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                              Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                              Mine would be :

                              "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                              For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                              Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                              How about you?

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                              You can't leave the party if you can't find the door. Randall Jacobs, aka Uncle Bunky

                              obituary, worth reading

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                              • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                Mine would be :

                                "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                How about you?

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                                #110

                                The worst decisions make the best stories. - Unknown

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                                  But who hurt elon?

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                                  Having untold wealth is actually not that good for you in a lot of cases. Generally, getting everything you want all the time is not good for your brain.

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                                    I agree it's good to credit a writer, but the attribution should also include the character so the quote has context. For example, I would want there to be a distinction between a comment I made in real life and a line I wrote for a psychotic character to say.

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                                    I hadn't thought of that before, and I can think of several characters who've said things I doubt the writers would want attributed to them. I just want to see quotes from fiction being clearly labeled as such, and not using the grandiose of a character's title to add weight to the quote.

                                    For example when I see people quote Admiral William Adama on how when the military becomes the police, the people become the enemy of the state. That was Ron Moore writing a character for a show set in a post apocalyptic universe where the only survivors are hanging out on military ships, not a real world seasoned officer's opinion. Is it an interesting point worth discussing? Sure, but I'm not putting it in the same category of 5-Star General Dwight Eisenhower's warnings about the military industrial complex

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                                    • squid_slime@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                      "Trust no one - not even yourself"

                                      My dad told me this while going through a divorce. He was also going through a criminal trial due to his deviance.

                                      Its one thing that stuck with me and I wish it didn't.

                                      Another one is from Lenin: " 'There Are Decades Where Nothing Happens' and 'Weeks Where Decades Happen' "

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                                      The Lenin one has been on my mind for like a year now. We're coming up on the anniversary of the February revolution and I'm hoping that as things get worse we'll see the point where we have had enough.

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                                        But who hurt elon?

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                                        His father is a real piece of shit. Like evej when compared to Elon. But also he grew up in a society defined by a particular level of violence. Even though he was the privileged group there the violence was still present and there was violence to all, including the violence to teach the white children to be the oppressors.

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                                          Never tie your identity to something that can be taken away. Re: job title, salary, perceived status. Your self perceived identity should have a much more stable foundation.

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                                          I like it. Remember where it's from?

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