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    Ha, lamers. A true wizard writes their assignments in roff.

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    roff? Ha poser! I use CTSS /s

    Nah, I hand code my postscript on magnetic core memory with a geomag stud.

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      Ahh, now I understand! I'll try my best to make it less scary πŸ™‚

      To start off

      why is there a need for external packages for a text document?

      There usually isn't, as long as you only want a simple document. The most basic thinkable document would be

      \documentclass{article}
      \begin{document}
      This is the text in my document
      \end{document}
      

      However, you'll likely want a title and author, so you can start off with

      \documentclass{article}
      \title{Fishes are nice}
      \author{Definitely not Jason Mamoa}
      \begin{document}
      
      \maketitle
      
      \section{Introduction}
      This is a text about why fishes are nice.
      
      \end{document}
      

      You have your "Super basic document", with at title and author. You can make simple formatting changes by modifying the documentclass statement at the top. My recommendation with all the external packages (usepackage) is to look them up one-by-one as you need them. You'll typically find a small handfull of packages that you need very often, and then you'll probably end up copy-pasting those declarations over whenever you create a new document. For most basic documents I'm using like 2-5 packages at most (fancy math fonts, hyperlinks, pretty bibliography, etc.)

      Tables are straight up scary

      They take a little getting used to, I agree. For someone working a lot with tables, I would recommend getting used to them, but if you only very rarely need them, there are "graphical editors" that let you build a table in a GUI and then give you the Latex code for it. Overleaf has an integrated "visual editing" mode that makes the barrier to entry lower. However I don't really recommend it for someone that really wants to learn to use Latex, because I think it prevents people from progressing past the very basics.

      plotting - I didn’t even try to comprehend it

      I've used Latex for years, specifically writing documents with a lot of plots. I have yet to attempt to learn to plot directly in Latex. I know some people that will create figures and plots directly in Latex, and I respect them. I use inkscape for figures, and python for plotting, and can get stuff looking pretty awesome that way. Learning to draw/plot directly in Latex is by no means a must.

      Please, make it any sort of user-friendly!

      As with other powerful tools, I think people are often overwhelmed coming in because of the massive number of possibilities, and the fine-grained control that is possible. My recommendation is to start out with something like the above, and progressively add complexity as you need it. Most people don't require more than basic section (and sub- subsub- etc.) headers, tables, figures, and equations. In that case, you'll need like 3-5 external packages and 3-5 "commands" (stuff like \begin{equation}). If you start out with the above example, you'll probably learn the basics on your own in a couple hours πŸ™‚

      I've held some latex-courses for beginners, so if you want, I could send you the "basic starting file" that the people taking the course have completed writing (with help) after about two hours πŸ™‚ I've been told that most of them feel pretty comfortable learning on their own once they have that.

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      Wow, I appreciate the time and effort you put into this, and yes, it sounds a bit reassuring πŸ™‚

      I probably feel the way computer noobs feel when someone here enthusiastically calls them to join Linux lol (I already did, no need to advocate here! :D)

      And yes, with that in mind, I'll give it another spin. I'd like to have that basic file example!

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        Do you remember when radicals were trying to cancel RMS because of him merely defending some accused person.

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        No, I in fact don't.

        I recall people questioning his publicly stated beliefs on his website that he updates frequently of "what if the child consents tho?!" when defending someone accused of sexual assault.

        https://www.stallman.org/archives/2006-mar-jun.html#05 June 2006 (Dutch paedophiles form political party)

        Dutch pedophiles have formed a political party to campaign for legalization.

        I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren’t voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

        https://stallman-report.org/

        All link his personal website for her views and documented credited places for other statements/citations.

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          I believe Zettlr editor uses pandoc to convert MD to LaTeX.

          Indeed needs some manual tinkering, as long as I remember, at least since MD is not so feature-rich πŸ˜„

          But thanks for the recommendation!

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          Yes, I also use Zettlr and it works fine. Especially with the Zotero integration. But you are right, it sometimes needs some tweaks to work fine.

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            Yes, I also use Zettlr and it works fine. Especially with the Zotero integration. But you are right, it sometimes needs some tweaks to work fine.

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            Zotero is straight up godsend - especially with some useful plugins. Figuring out how Zettlr integration works took a while, but it was fairly convenient at the end.

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              I would do my work in OpenOffice at home, save it to doc/docx, then when it is entirely completed, I will bring it to the library to load it in Word on a library computer and correct any formatting issues and resave it.

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                Mine accepted rtf.

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                Another proprietary Microsoft format:

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format

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                  Wow, I appreciate the time and effort you put into this, and yes, it sounds a bit reassuring πŸ™‚

                  I probably feel the way computer noobs feel when someone here enthusiastically calls them to join Linux lol (I already did, no need to advocate here! :D)

                  And yes, with that in mind, I'll give it another spin. I'd like to have that basic file example!

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                  Sorry for taking some time, monday morning suddenly hit me in the face... I've put up some files here that you should be able to download. The files can be opened with any plain-text editor (notepad, textedit, or similar).

                  My recommendation is to create an account on overleaf, click "create new project", and upload the files there. Then you can hit "recompile" to see how the document looks. My guess is that you'll figure out how stuff works pretty quickly just by modifying that file. If what you want to write is a simple document, you can really just get going πŸ™‚

                  Feel free to let me know if you have any issues πŸ™‚

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                    Sorry for taking some time, monday morning suddenly hit me in the face... I've put up some files here that you should be able to download. The files can be opened with any plain-text editor (notepad, textedit, or similar).

                    My recommendation is to create an account on overleaf, click "create new project", and upload the files there. Then you can hit "recompile" to see how the document looks. My guess is that you'll figure out how stuff works pretty quickly just by modifying that file. If what you want to write is a simple document, you can really just get going πŸ™‚

                    Feel free to let me know if you have any issues πŸ™‚

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                    Thanks! Will try

                    Also, hey, you share treasure trove of info and then say sorry? πŸ™‚

                    I'm thankful you have shared it!

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                      • If it's meant to be pretty, portable, and read-only: pdf
                      • If it's text with no formatting: txt
                      • If it's formatted and read-write: md
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                      I know png has issues but I HATE ANYTHING ELSE googles OWN version of PowerPoint doesn't support their OWN file format!!

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                        good ol virus.txt

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                        You joke, but that has happened through abusing the IME keyboard relationship.

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