The home page of my $1700 smart TV has a full page ad about watching ads

[tyler@programming.dev]

Isn’t that Android? Sorry, not touching Android unless it’s something like Calyx or Graphene or lineage. I’ll just build myself a pc to connect to my TV if I wanted to go anywhere near that.

Have you used an Apple TV or are you just claiming that the shield is better because you like customizing things more?

[thebeesknees@lemmy.sdf.org]

Not disagreeing, but at some point this won't be enough. Assuming companies aren't already, "offline" devices will get shipped with the ability to utilize unsecured networks and/or other nearby devices. Better hope any neighbors are privacy conscious too.*

(they're not)

[gullible@sh.itjust.works]

I’ve been recommending physically snipping radios, but that can cause issues if you don’t understand what you’re doing. Any chance you know whether it’s possible to simply delete drivers and backups on modern smart tvs? Mine is ancient, so I have no clue what they’re doing to y’all, nowadays.

[yournamehere@lemm.ee]

i dont know what you mean by baked in really. all services are packages i guess and a quick google search says stuff like that at least exist at some point, e.g.https://github.com/tutyamxx/androidtv-debloat-script

i wish op the best of luck to escape telemetry hell.

[alk@sh.itjust.works]

I've used both, still prefer the shield. Hardware-wise they're about the same insofar as I never had trouble with any lag at any point on either. This is what sets both of them apart from all other streaming devices. Chromecast, roku, fire sticks, they've all had trouble with some of the higher bit rate media on my jellyfin server. Apple TV and shield did not.

I prefer the shield remote.

The main difference comes down to software. Android TV is simply better. I can get the interface exactly how I like it, and run all manner of apps in the background, making the remote more useful among other things. Apple TV doesn't even have access to the jellyfin app, you have to use swiftfin on the app store which has issues. You can sideload apps super easily on the shield. (Though for the jellyfin example, you don't have to. It's on the play store.)

[alk@sh.itjust.works]

Yep, all 5 years old. I don't see a need for another one quite yet when even the newest streaming devices still don't measure up.

[alfredolin@sopuli.xyz]

This feels like my Philips. It has gotten so damn slow lately.
I thought I had partially cleaned the system and yesterday I did a check and removed 25 apps. 25. Most of it was co.uk.freeview shit... was it there on my previous cleanup? Doubt. Did I install that? No.

[dx1@lemmy.ml]

Adb is just an interface between computer and phone, the packages it lists may not be every system component, you can add anything in at kernel level, or also just not list it in that interface.

[pimento64@sopuli.xyz]

My TV has an even better operating system, Linux, because it's a display panel with an old laptop connected to it. Imagine seeing advertisements on your television screen, couldn't be me.

[maccentric@sh.itjust.works]

Any issues popping up (especially from the old version of Android)?

[alk@sh.itjust.works]

No, it's smoother than even my brand new Google TV chromecast that it replaced. I replaced the default launcher with something easier for my elderly mother to understand because she kept getting confused with other devices. It's snappy, has all the apps I have needed, and was easy to set up.

[maggoty@lemmy.world]

To be fair, the super bowl ads are seen as part of the entertainment by many people and the companies generally do go out of their way to make the funniest or cutest ads of the year. Any other time I would fully agree with you.

[girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works]

Sounds like they might have the capability to just network block the device from their router too. At least that's what I do, just in case someone tries to use it.