The home page of my $1700 smart TV has a full page ad about watching ads
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I'll also reiterate that they flat out will not even use a TV sometimes because they're defeated by the smart TV features that prevent them from getting over to their Comcast box.
Yes I did read your comment and here you just proved my point. And my solution was not for old people. Point I was making in my comment was that old people already lost cause. They don't understand technology and therefore will not benefit from it. So yeah they get suckered into buying these TVs and then they never use them properly or they get somebody younger to set them up so that they can use either Netflix or Disney+ since those are the only things they know of to watch whatever programs they can pull up or they pay someone to get a cable box plugged in and surf like they did in the '80s, '90s, and early 2000s.
My "fix" is for younger people, twenties to '50s, who don't want to deal with the ad-pocalypse. I have been able to set it up multiple times with various sized computers right down to a Raspberry Pi. And yeah, of some ain't tech savvy enough to plug a computer into an HDMI port and use it to watch stuff on their TV, I have no sympathies. We live in a digital age and if you're younger than '50 years old and can't work a computer, you're dead out of luck when it comes to digital entertainment and you might as well get used to having ads shoved in your face the rest of your life.
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Yeah all that bluster in Congress about TikTok collecting people's data and yet not one single privacy bill materialized anywhere. Not even from Democrats. It's almost like the privacy concerns were not even real.
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LG is one of the worst. Only TVs with ROKU are worse for privacy concerns. ROKU, LG and Samsung make Google look good when it comes to invasion of privacy.
I've been against the idea of smart TVs from day one. A good panel will easily have a longer life than whatever smart box they shoe horn into TVs now. That's reason enough to avoid that trap.
Mark my words on this: on top of the privacy invasion Future smart TVs will be designed to slow down to the point of being unusable well before their panels wear out to force upgrades and prevent third party repairs.
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Why the fuck does your television have a home page?
FLauncher is pretty great
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This might depend on the version the OS is. I have an LG that's been great for years, then it got a ""fresh new look"" that featured a giant banner for "recommendations."
I had auto-updates off, too. Thankfully, they still had an option to revert to the previous menu - but who knows how long that'd stay an option? It pissed me off enough to finally setup AdGaurd Home on my home server.
Fun Fact: It's increased my phone's battery life by ~48 hours (excluding the rare occasion where its being actively used all day).
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Isn’t that Android? Sorry, not touching Android unless it’s something like Calyx or Graphene or lineage. I’ll just build myself a pc to connect to my TV if I wanted to go anywhere near that.
Have you used an Apple TV or are you just claiming that the shield is better because you like customizing things more?
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Not disagreeing, but at some point this won't be enough. Assuming companies aren't already, "offline" devices will get shipped with the ability to utilize unsecured networks and/or other nearby devices. Better hope any neighbors are privacy conscious too.*
(they're not)
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i dont know what you mean by baked in really. all services are packages i guess and a quick google search says stuff like that at least exist at some point, e.g.https://github.com/tutyamxx/androidtv-debloat-script
i wish op the best of luck to escape telemetry hell.
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I've used both, still prefer the shield. Hardware-wise they're about the same insofar as I never had trouble with any lag at any point on either. This is what sets both of them apart from all other streaming devices. Chromecast, roku, fire sticks, they've all had trouble with some of the higher bit rate media on my jellyfin server. Apple TV and shield did not.
I prefer the shield remote.
The main difference comes down to software. Android TV is simply better. I can get the interface exactly how I like it, and run all manner of apps in the background, making the remote more useful among other things. Apple TV doesn't even have access to the jellyfin app, you have to use swiftfin on the app store which has issues. You can sideload apps super easily on the shield. (Though for the jellyfin example, you don't have to. It's on the play store.)
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This feels like my Philips. It has gotten so damn slow lately.
I thought I had partially cleaned the system and yesterday I did a check and removed 25 apps. 25. Most of it was co.uk.freeview shit... was it there on my previous cleanup? Doubt. Did I install that? No. -
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My TV has an even better operating system, Linux, because it's a display panel with an old laptop connected to it. Imagine seeing advertisements on your television screen, couldn't be me.
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Any issues popping up (especially from the old version of Android)?
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No, it's smoother than even my brand new Google TV chromecast that it replaced. I replaced the default launcher with something easier for my elderly mother to understand because she kept getting confused with other devices. It's snappy, has all the apps I have needed, and was easy to set up.
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To be fair, the super bowl ads are seen as part of the entertainment by many people and the companies generally do go out of their way to make the funniest or cutest ads of the year. Any other time I would fully agree with you.
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Sounds like they might have the capability to just network block the device from their router too. At least that's what I do, just in case someone tries to use it.
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And then buy a non-smart TV instead. At least one company, Sceptre, still makes them. (I don't want to make it seem like I'm shilling for a particular brand, but I genuinely don't know of any other options, aside from commercial signage displays.)
