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    Wait until you hear that universities are just literal paywalls to seperate social classes so poor people can’t get good jobs that once were apprenticeships.

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    I assure you that's not how it works in Europe. Nowhere near as bad as the US, in any case.
    I guess that's what happens when education is deeply ingrained in the culture.

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      I mean, not the whole world is the US. Plus, at this point you'll get a better paying job if you go into trades.

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      Haha, yeah, if you actually look at how much you earn vs how much you actually work (quality of life), some trades like electrician or plumbers are so much better off than my doctor wife, it's not even funny 😕

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        I mean, not the whole world is the US. Plus, at this point you'll get a better paying job if you go into trades.

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        There's a trade school near me that is fucking free. They have a huge endowment and that pays for everything, even room and board for the on-campus students. They still have to advertise and meanwhile kids go $300K into debt to get a degree in English Lit. I'm all for a classic Liberal Arts education but god damn.

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          This is so fake that we managed to reach the {fake + gay} threshold without having to tap into the gay potential

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            I love the correction system we have at my university. All the exams are pseudonymized with a sticker you receive during the exam and scanned after completion. About 10 to 30 people are involved in correcting the exams for one course. We don't know who the exams belong to as we only see the scanned version on our tablet or computer. Each task is corrected by a different set of people. We can select to see only a single task or subtask to streamline the process of correction, too. Furthermore, all the tasks are checked twice independently. Once done, the system can assign the exams back to the students. I love how it's fair and "anonymous" by design.

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            Wait... are there universities that don't have an anonymous exam system?

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            • F [email protected]

              I keep reading about people grading on a curve and I still can't grasp what that means. Do those teachers have like a set number of A B C, or whatever, they can give out? And if they've run out of A then you get a B? And if the B run out you get a C and so on?
              That seems a completely intellectually bankrupt practice! If you don't want more than X people passing, then just grade people with percentages and let only the first X highest through and that's it, but don't lie with fake grades! How insane...

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              basically that, yes.

              though in my experience, they'd make the tests so hard that everyone would get failing or nearly failing grades, then curve up so that more people pass and some get As

              only issue for them is if the average is 36% but 3 students got high 90s.. makes the curving math a lot more awkward

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                A lot of professors are overworked with classes and programs too. One of my girlfriends uas a professor for anatomy who teaches two full college courses before going to her massage school to teach anatomy. She says you can tell that the professor isn't really there mentally. Sge never actually prepares for the courses she's supposed to be teaching, but you can tell us just from exhaustion. I wonder how many are like that and just forget what coursework they're currently preparing for others.

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                In my uni, professors are expected to teach almost 220h/years of in person teaching (correcting doesn’t count, nor preparing), on top of “being a team playing” and doing quite some extra bureaucratic work. Obviously on top of doing their own research. Good teachers (professors that care about teaching quality) look like ghosts by the end of the academic year…

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                  I keep reading about people grading on a curve and I still can't grasp what that means. Do those teachers have like a set number of A B C, or whatever, they can give out? And if they've run out of A then you get a B? And if the B run out you get a C and so on?
                  That seems a completely intellectually bankrupt practice! If you don't want more than X people passing, then just grade people with percentages and let only the first X highest through and that's it, but don't lie with fake grades! How insane...

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                  The curve means the class's scores is fit onto a bell curve. X% pass, Y% fail, etc all according to the predetermined standard bell curve. Doesn't matter if the class is full of Einsteins or dunces. If 30% is the highest mark in the class then that's an A+, and so on.

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                    I keep reading about people grading on a curve and I still can't grasp what that means. Do those teachers have like a set number of A B C, or whatever, they can give out? And if they've run out of A then you get a B? And if the B run out you get a C and so on?
                    That seems a completely intellectually bankrupt practice! If you don't want more than X people passing, then just grade people with percentages and let only the first X highest through and that's it, but don't lie with fake grades! How insane...

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                    Grading on a curve is indeed that, and it should be criminalized because of how much it harms students

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                      Wait... are there universities that don't have an anonymous exam system?

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                      Probably. We have a system where you only need to write your student id number but often people also write their names since it makes kt easier to find your exam when going to see what you did right and wrong.

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                        This is so fake that we managed to reach the {fake + gay} threshold without having to tap into the gay potential

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                        >anon waits until all the other students leave

                        >asks the professor what he can "do" to pass

                        this is a classic porn script, gay/10

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                        • amir@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                          In Delft, corrections of the curve are only ever used upwards, in case the passing rate is very low. If everyone completes the test without mistakes everyone gets a 10.

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                          This was my experience at a US university as well.

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                            This is so fake that we managed to reach the {fake + gay} threshold without having to tap into the gay potential

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                            Um, the text is green, so it is clearly the unvarnished truth

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                              Probably. We have a system where you only need to write your student id number but often people also write their names since it makes kt easier to find your exam when going to see what you did right and wrong.

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                              Here, students can also view their graded exams online. There are some professors that don't do it out of fear of the exams questions being leaked. In that case, you'd go there in person, but you would definitely not be able to just go through the exams on your own until you find the right one. That would never pass data protection laws.

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                                This probably didn't actually happen, but I did have a physics class in college where we had an exam where the highest score was 35%, so it was graded on an absurd curve

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                                I was a physics major, and the whole department was famous for this. I think it's just lazy. They don't make the test for what they actually taught, they just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.

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                                  This probably didn't actually happen, but I did have a physics class in college where we had an exam where the highest score was 35%, so it was graded on an absurd curve

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                                  My 3 terms of intro to o physics were like this. The mechanical engineers that suffered through statics couldn't even bring the curve up too much.

                                  Even with that, it I didn't have two friends in those classes I never would have passed.

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                                    There's a trade school near me that is fucking free. They have a huge endowment and that pays for everything, even room and board for the on-campus students. They still have to advertise and meanwhile kids go $300K into debt to get a degree in English Lit. I'm all for a classic Liberal Arts education but god damn.

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                                    In Germany, most trades are organized as apprenticeships with a split of work days and school days, which means you'll basically get paid for school!

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                                      Probably. We have a system where you only need to write your student id number but often people also write their names since it makes kt easier to find your exam when going to see what you did right and wrong.

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                                      Sorry but this seems almost archaic to me. When I was a student we were assigned a number by the exam office that we wrote on our exams, then after the exams were corrected the exam office would send us back our result. It was quite simply putting in a middle-man that did the student <-> number mapping so that the people correcting the exams never saw any names.

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                                        My major in college for my BS included all but 2 credit hours of a physics minor, so my final semester, I took Thermal Physics to complete that minor. I've never met a physics course I didn't ace, so I figured "easy A".

                                        I'm quite certain I was the highest scorer in the course and was a solid B+ before the final. I took the final and felt really good about how well I did. I thought sure that professor would curve (or otherwise adjust the grades) and I'd be the one that threw off the curve.

                                        I got my grades back. I got a C. My only C ever, in fact. An A (what I expected) would have gotten me summa cum laude.

                                        The same semester, I took a statistics class. Paid exactly zero attention in class. The class took place in a computer lab for no good reason other than I'm guessing the other classrooms were booked. I played a fast-paced Quake-like FPS every class all class. Got an A in that course.

                                        But that fuckin' thermal physics class.

                                        Years later, a coworker of mine who was an alum of my alma mater told me that they'd taken the professor who taught that thermal physics class off of teaching permanently due to his completely unreasonable grading practices.

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                                        I feel kinda bad for anyone ADHD sat behind you, because there's one data structures class where I don't remember a damn thing except the dude in front of me 1CC-ing Einhander.

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                                          Here, students can also view their graded exams online. There are some professors that don't do it out of fear of the exams questions being leaked. In that case, you'd go there in person, but you would definitely not be able to just go through the exams on your own until you find the right one. That would never pass data protection laws.

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                                          I mean by find your exam I meant the professor or whoever is taking care of it going through them and finding your name instead of calling out every number.

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