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    I had a coworker approach me on break and start telling me about a book he was reading and how much he was enjoying it. Towards the end, he mentioned struggling with it and that he wished someone had told him how great reading was earlier. We were both damn near 30, and it was a YA novel. I resisted the asshole urge to roast him because, shit, at least he's trying?

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    Struggling how though?

    If they were struggling with the vocabulary, then that might be roastable.

    But if they meant, e.g., struggling with the themes, that might be understandable. YA books sometimes tackle difficult subjects or are subtle, layered, etc.

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    • U [email protected]

      I had a coworker approach me on break and start telling me about a book he was reading and how much he was enjoying it. Towards the end, he mentioned struggling with it and that he wished someone had told him how great reading was earlier. We were both damn near 30, and it was a YA novel. I resisted the asshole urge to roast him because, shit, at least he's trying?

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      I read YA as Yaoi and I'm like "or course it's reasonable to roast him for telling a coworker about the Yaoi he's reading"

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      • U [email protected]

        I had a coworker approach me on break and start telling me about a book he was reading and how much he was enjoying it. Towards the end, he mentioned struggling with it and that he wished someone had told him how great reading was earlier. We were both damn near 30, and it was a YA novel. I resisted the asshole urge to roast him because, shit, at least he's trying?

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        When I was in the US Air Force, I was deployed to a US Marine camp once, and listening to those guys chat among themselves was always a treat. You never knew what dumbass comments were going to come out of their mouths.

        One day, one of the young corporals mentioned that, while traveling to another base, he got stuck waiting for a connecting flight between bases for about a week and he was so bored, he read A BOOK. He stressed the fact that he's never read an entire book from cover to cover before, but he did on this layover because he was so extremely bored.

        To my surprise, the other Marines just nodded along, like this made perfect sense to them. Not a single person harassed him for never reading a book before (and they harass each other all the time for the simplest things).

        I mean, we poke fun at Marines for being dumb. They call themselves jarheads, which is an allusion to the fact that their heads are as empty as a jar. But it still blows my mind to hear the dumb things they say sometimes.

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          you guys do realise the poster is making a joke I hope, no need to actually get upset about this

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            He is an obese man in the gym. Literally nothing more admirable than someone improving themselves.

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            Exactly! And not just doing it, but sticking to it AND vulnerably admitting to struggling.

            If only more people could do it.

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              I read YA as Yaoi and I'm like "or course it's reasonable to roast him for telling a coworker about the Yaoi he's reading"

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              No, the correct reaction is "I do not know the Jah-Oi of which you speak. What is this art form that I have never heard of?"

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                you guys do realise the poster is making a joke I hope, no need to actually get upset about this

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                On one hand, yes, on the other... We had a student in our lab that started reading the Game of Thrones books because we were big fans. I think it was 2012. He had never read a book. Sure, magazines and stuff but never an entire book. He did go on to do a PhD.

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                  I assume it's similar how I can't get in to manga, but I can enjoy a novel or animated stuff. Just can't seem to enjoy those black and white squares with questionable art in them. Just doesn't speak to me.

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                  There's almost certainly manga you'd enjoy out there, but if you're not willing to dig through all the crap that's understandable. And because it's more niche it'll take more effort to discover the things you'd like.

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                    As you read these comments, remember that 56% of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or above; the rest read below that.

                    Please be gentle.

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                      I assume it's similar how I can't get in to manga, but I can enjoy a novel or animated stuff. Just can't seem to enjoy those black and white squares with questionable art in them. Just doesn't speak to me.

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                      I’m more for novels but for me it’s because a translated manga will cost similar to a light novel but takes a fraction of the time to read. Less value for my money

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                        I assume it's similar how I can't get in to manga, but I can enjoy a novel or animated stuff. Just can't seem to enjoy those black and white squares with questionable art in them. Just doesn't speak to me.

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                        Have you tried any that are criticallyhighly regarded? I certainly wouldn't describe the art in Akira or any of Otomo's books as "questionable". Obviously there's cheaper stuff out there but there is extremely high quality Manga.

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                          Very true. Hopefully, he still enjoys reading today.

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                          And now you get to recommend him all the good stuff he missed!

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                          • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                            It's a book with chapters. Basically a regular ass book. When kids are real little, their books are like 15 pages long. Then in like 1st or 2nd grade, they move onto reading big kid books - aka "chapter books" that have enough pages to warrant chapters.

                            You never hear someone over the age of 7 or 8 mention reading "chapter books" because they're just know as books.

                            Except anon, who is dumb as fuck.

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                            Anon could be a kid. On the internet nobody knows you're a dog. Actually, a lot of content on 4chan looks like a giggling 8 year old posted it; especially the posts about poop.

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                              I fucking knew 4chan was illiterate /s

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                              HE IS?

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                                I assume it's similar how I can't get in to manga, but I can enjoy a novel or animated stuff. Just can't seem to enjoy those black and white squares with questionable art in them. Just doesn't speak to me.

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                                I'm not a huge manga fan myself, so I'll share the only one that's managed to make enough of an impression for me to read multiple works, and that's horror author Junji Ito.

                                He's usually got some disturbing, but unique and fairly talented art. Some of his stuff veers more towards ghost story, some dreamishly weird, and some straight up Cronenberg shit. His magnum opus "Uzumaki" is all three.

                                If you feel like giving it a chance, here's The Enigma of Amigara Fault, a shorter, tamer work that's a fairly common intro to his stuff.

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                                  As you read these comments, remember that 56% of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or above; the rest read below that.

                                  Please be gentle.

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                                  I recall reading somewhere that adult literacy was at like 98% in the US. Though that was like 25 years ago, and I suppose a 6th grade level still counts as “literate”? Or did we slide backwards?

                                  If we have to talk about this in terms of “grade levels”, at what point is someone actually considered illiterate?

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                                    Anon could be a kid. On the internet nobody knows you're a dog. Actually, a lot of content on 4chan looks like a giggling 8 year old posted it; especially the posts about poop.

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                                    Hehe, you said "poop"

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                                      I recall reading somewhere that adult literacy was at like 98% in the US. Though that was like 25 years ago, and I suppose a 6th grade level still counts as “literate”? Or did we slide backwards?

                                      If we have to talk about this in terms of “grade levels”, at what point is someone actually considered illiterate?

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                                      The way they get that grade level reading comprehension is dubious. If you read the news, non-academic magazines, and most of the NYTs best seller list, you likely have been reading primarily around that level according to these tests.

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        I recall reading somewhere that adult literacy was at like 98% in the US. Though that was like 25 years ago, and I suppose a 6th grade level still counts as “literate”? Or did we slide backwards?

                                        If we have to talk about this in terms of “grade levels”, at what point is someone actually considered illiterate?

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                                        There's different levels of literacy as well. If we take things like math literacy and functional literacy into account (things like doing your taxes or filling out government forms), something like 60% of the adult population is functionally illiterate (below a third grade level) in at least one area.

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                                          Fuck by chapter book I thought they're talking about Warhammer 40k novel about a specific Space Marine chapter and they're disappointed because they don't want to read 40k novels.

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