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Do any of you have a buttload of RAM sitting around?

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  • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

    Hi,

    I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

    For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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    #16

    Not anymore... Had a box of old/junk parts lying around before I moved but I didn't bring it with me because it was essentially just garbage I never got around to taking to the electronic recycling thing because it was just a once a year thing that cost me money.

    I'd have no problem giving away stuff like that. I wouldn't take parts out of an active machine to let someone "borrow" tho.

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      put your butt on a scale, convert the result to RAM, duh

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      #17

      Yup, that’s some random ass memory.

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      • T [email protected]

        Borrow it from NewEgg, then return it

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        #18

        Newegg isn't so bad. Do a shit corporate like best buy.

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        • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

          Hi,

          I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

          For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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          #19

          As a hardware guy there is so little info here

          DDR2, 3, 4, or 5? Clock speed? ECC? Registered?

          Yeah I have boxes of older memory. But there needs to be a lot more specifics. Most of my home lab machines have at least 384gb (VMs need a lot of memory).

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          • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

            Hi,

            I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

            For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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            #20

            First of all, he should drop Python for anything resource intensive as such a simulation. And then think about how to optimize the algorithm.

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            • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

              Hi,

              I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

              For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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              #21

              I do not have any RAM to share, sorry.

              Economics simulation + Python needing 200+GB of RAM sounds preventable.

              In your friend's shoes, I might start asking for pointers over on the programming.dev Lemmy.

              As others have said, a rewrite in a faster language like C or goLang could help - but my guess is there's also ways to cut that memory need way down, while still using Python.

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              • B [email protected]

                As a hardware guy there is so little info here

                DDR2, 3, 4, or 5? Clock speed? ECC? Registered?

                Yeah I have boxes of older memory. But there needs to be a lot more specifics. Most of my home lab machines have at least 384gb (VMs need a lot of memory).

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                #22

                I don't think OP wants you to lend them physical RAM modules but asks about letting his friend run random code on your high-RAM machine.

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                • S [email protected]

                  I don't think OP wants you to lend them physical RAM modules but asks about letting his friend run random code on your high-RAM machine.

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                  #23

                  Maybe? After rereading it I’m really not sure …

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                  • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

                    Hi,

                    I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

                    For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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                    #24

                    First, define what you are asking for.

                    Do you want someone to send you a cardboard box full of RAM? Then forget it. Nobody would be stupid enough to lend that much expensive hardware to someone on the internet.

                    Or are you asking for someone to let you run random code on their PC for a few hours? Then forget it. Nobody would be stupid enough to open "a single SSH port" to someone on the internet to run potential malware on their PC.

                    That's exactly what cloud platforms are there for, and if you don't like google, get any other cloud provider.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      Maybe? After rereading it I’m really not sure …

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                      #25

                      That's at least what I got from the comment with the SSH port.

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                        That's at least what I got from the comment with the SSH port.

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                        #26

                        Yeah I can definitely see your point.

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                        • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

                          Hi,

                          I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

                          For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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                          #27

                          All my extra RAM was super old and I let it get offed when I hired a junk hauling company clear out my last place when I moved (I'd been there for like 15 years, so there was a lot of worn out furniture and stuff).

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                          • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

                            Hi,

                            I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

                            For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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                            #28

                            i have 8 gigs thats been living on my desk for the last 4 years

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                            • S [email protected]

                              First, define what you are asking for.

                              Do you want someone to send you a cardboard box full of RAM? Then forget it. Nobody would be stupid enough to lend that much expensive hardware to someone on the internet.

                              Or are you asking for someone to let you run random code on their PC for a few hours? Then forget it. Nobody would be stupid enough to open "a single SSH port" to someone on the internet to run potential malware on their PC.

                              That's exactly what cloud platforms are there for, and if you don't like google, get any other cloud provider.

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                              Seconded. If they can't optimize their code (which, I have never seen applications require 256 gigs of ram even in FAANG so I find that doubtful), then they need to rent a machine. The cloud is where you rent it. If not Google, then AWS, Azure, Digital Ocean, any number of places let you rent compute

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                                Needing that much RAM is usually a red flag that the algo is not optimized.

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                                *looking at the 14TB cluster I had running for 18 hours

                                Yep, nobody would ever need that much memory

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                                • souperk@reddthat.comS [email protected]

                                  Hi,

                                  I have a friend who is looking to run a few simulations he has implemented in python and needs around 256GB of ram. He is estimating it will take a couple of hours, but he is studying economics so take that with a grain of salt 🤣

                                  For this instance, I recommended GCP, but I felt a bit dirty doing that. So, I was wondering if any of you have a buttload of memory he can burrow? Generally, would you lend your RAM for a short amount of time to a stranger over the internet? (assuming internet acccess is limited to a signle ssh port, other necessary safeguards are in place)

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                                  #31

                                  Tell your friend to open source the algorithm.. Somebody will surely point at a easy optimization.
                                  100 others will just shit on your friend

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                                  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

                                    Seconded. If they can't optimize their code (which, I have never seen applications require 256 gigs of ram even in FAANG so I find that doubtful), then they need to rent a machine. The cloud is where you rent it. If not Google, then AWS, Azure, Digital Ocean, any number of places let you rent compute

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                                    Yeah, it's an economics student running something on python. I can guarantee that it's horribly unoptimized.

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                                      *looking at the 14TB cluster I had running for 18 hours

                                      Yep, nobody would ever need that much memory

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                                      Wow, yea I think you win that contest lol.

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                                        Wow, yea I think you win that contest lol.

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                                        To be honest, it was a very paralell process. I could do a fraction of the compute, needing a fraction of the RAM, but taking a shit ton more time.

                                        Also, theres no perfect machine for this use. I can have 3.5 times more RAM than needed, or start swapping and waste time.

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                                          Needing that much RAM is usually a red flag that the algo is not optimized.

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                                          Nope. Some algorithms are fastest when a whole data set is held into memory. You could design it to page data in from disk as needed, but it would be slower.

                                          OpenTripPlanner as an example will hold the entire road network of the US in memory for example for fast driving directions, and it uses the amount of RAM in that ballpark.

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