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    Hi,

    I have to admit I'm glad that Elon Musk & Donald Trump exist, to balance this crazy world of censorship ( some times also covered as "moderation" )

    In Macronie ( ex France ) where I reside, Freedom of speech is dead.

    A funny meme, but sadly real...

     

    So Twitter ( aka X ) bought by Mr. Musk is a relieve. Apparently ( since they clean it ) a space with no, or less censorship Hooray !

    And here in our totalitarian regime,

    this is BAD, very BAD ! That's why Europe started public relation campaign ( aka propaganda ) to make peoples quit Twitter

    So concretely all the company, body etc.. founded by Europe are asked to quite Twitter and to advertise loud about it....

    On the other side, I've tried many time to join Twitter trough the TOR network !! ( That protect your anonymity )
    But those accounts are within 6 hours banned....

    So, I don't understand , why the fuck, Twitter ban people that use TOR !? If they were really wanted the common good...

    Note that peoples that live in Europe and create a Twitter ( or actually any social media account ) without TOR or something similar take tremendous risk to do so !

    Any way Twitter is a centralized platform and this is not good ! can't wait to see a real decentralized place, kind like Lemmy, but Lemmy can be bring down too easily ! compare to an .onion

     

    if the freedom of expression is limited to the ideas that we like, it is not freedom of expression.
    Noam Chomsky.

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      Hi,

      I have to admit I'm glad that Elon Musk & Donald Trump exist, to balance this crazy world of censorship ( some times also covered as "moderation" )

      In Macronie ( ex France ) where I reside, Freedom of speech is dead.

      A funny meme, but sadly real...

       

      So Twitter ( aka X ) bought by Mr. Musk is a relieve. Apparently ( since they clean it ) a space with no, or less censorship Hooray !

      And here in our totalitarian regime,

      this is BAD, very BAD ! That's why Europe started public relation campaign ( aka propaganda ) to make peoples quit Twitter

      So concretely all the company, body etc.. founded by Europe are asked to quite Twitter and to advertise loud about it....

      On the other side, I've tried many time to join Twitter trough the TOR network !! ( That protect your anonymity )
      But those accounts are within 6 hours banned....

      So, I don't understand , why the fuck, Twitter ban people that use TOR !? If they were really wanted the common good...

      Note that peoples that live in Europe and create a Twitter ( or actually any social media account ) without TOR or something similar take tremendous risk to do so !

      Any way Twitter is a centralized platform and this is not good ! can't wait to see a real decentralized place, kind like Lemmy, but Lemmy can be bring down too easily ! compare to an .onion

       

      if the freedom of expression is limited to the ideas that we like, it is not freedom of expression.
      Noam Chomsky.

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      Not sure if serious or trolling...

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        Hi,

        I have to admit I'm glad that Elon Musk & Donald Trump exist, to balance this crazy world of censorship ( some times also covered as "moderation" )

        In Macronie ( ex France ) where I reside, Freedom of speech is dead.

        A funny meme, but sadly real...

         

        So Twitter ( aka X ) bought by Mr. Musk is a relieve. Apparently ( since they clean it ) a space with no, or less censorship Hooray !

        And here in our totalitarian regime,

        this is BAD, very BAD ! That's why Europe started public relation campaign ( aka propaganda ) to make peoples quit Twitter

        So concretely all the company, body etc.. founded by Europe are asked to quite Twitter and to advertise loud about it....

        On the other side, I've tried many time to join Twitter trough the TOR network !! ( That protect your anonymity )
        But those accounts are within 6 hours banned....

        So, I don't understand , why the fuck, Twitter ban people that use TOR !? If they were really wanted the common good...

        Note that peoples that live in Europe and create a Twitter ( or actually any social media account ) without TOR or something similar take tremendous risk to do so !

        Any way Twitter is a centralized platform and this is not good ! can't wait to see a real decentralized place, kind like Lemmy, but Lemmy can be bring down too easily ! compare to an .onion

         

        if the freedom of expression is limited to the ideas that we like, it is not freedom of expression.
        Noam Chomsky.

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        X isn't about free speech:

        https://www.politico.eu/article/musks-x-suspends-opposition-accounts-turkey-protest-civil-unrest-erdogan-imamoglu-istanbul-mayor/

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          X isn't about free speech:

          https://www.politico.eu/article/musks-x-suspends-opposition-accounts-turkey-protest-civil-unrest-erdogan-imamoglu-istanbul-mayor/

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          Damn, so what does ? Which tool allow free speech online ?

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            Not sure if serious or trolling...

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            serious..

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              Damn, so what does ? Which tool allow free speech online ?

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              There are no true free speech instances, because nobody wants Nazis on their platform except Nazi platforms. And Nazi platforms don't want you.

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                Damn, so what does ? Which tool allow free speech online ?

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                Depends on your definition of free speech.

                If that's "you can post literally anything and there is no moderation", then likely none.

                Cause it would attract pedophiles sharing child sexual abuse material, drug traders and Nazis making lists of targets.
                Why should anyone pay upkeep to host that? No advertiser will go near it, and it's only a matter of time before the cops take it down and arrest people.

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                  Hi,

                  I have to admit I'm glad that Elon Musk & Donald Trump exist, to balance this crazy world of censorship ( some times also covered as "moderation" )

                  In Macronie ( ex France ) where I reside, Freedom of speech is dead.

                  A funny meme, but sadly real...

                   

                  So Twitter ( aka X ) bought by Mr. Musk is a relieve. Apparently ( since they clean it ) a space with no, or less censorship Hooray !

                  And here in our totalitarian regime,

                  this is BAD, very BAD ! That's why Europe started public relation campaign ( aka propaganda ) to make peoples quit Twitter

                  So concretely all the company, body etc.. founded by Europe are asked to quite Twitter and to advertise loud about it....

                  On the other side, I've tried many time to join Twitter trough the TOR network !! ( That protect your anonymity )
                  But those accounts are within 6 hours banned....

                  So, I don't understand , why the fuck, Twitter ban people that use TOR !? If they were really wanted the common good...

                  Note that peoples that live in Europe and create a Twitter ( or actually any social media account ) without TOR or something similar take tremendous risk to do so !

                  Any way Twitter is a centralized platform and this is not good ! can't wait to see a real decentralized place, kind like Lemmy, but Lemmy can be bring down too easily ! compare to an .onion

                   

                  if the freedom of expression is limited to the ideas that we like, it is not freedom of expression.
                  Noam Chomsky.

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                  You must be trolling but in case you're not, the richest man in the world bought Twitter to silence left wing voices that were a danger to his ability to exploit the working class.

                  Now that he's functionally the president of the united states, he obviously doesn't want people to use Tor because that would make it harder to find and jail people who are against him.

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                    Damn, so what does ? Which tool allow free speech online ?

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                    Depends where you are and what you want to post. You can host your own website with an activitypub instance (like a wordpress with the activitypub plugin, or a mastodon instance, or a smaller activitypub instance) and the only thing that can limit you from there is the law. But again, unfortunately if the government is censoring you, there's nothing stopping you from getting arrested. I don't know much about onion hosting, but I believe that's anonymised so there'll be less risk of you being identified and censored.

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                      Hi,

                      I have to admit I'm glad that Elon Musk & Donald Trump exist, to balance this crazy world of censorship ( some times also covered as "moderation" )

                      In Macronie ( ex France ) where I reside, Freedom of speech is dead.

                      A funny meme, but sadly real...

                       

                      So Twitter ( aka X ) bought by Mr. Musk is a relieve. Apparently ( since they clean it ) a space with no, or less censorship Hooray !

                      And here in our totalitarian regime,

                      this is BAD, very BAD ! That's why Europe started public relation campaign ( aka propaganda ) to make peoples quit Twitter

                      So concretely all the company, body etc.. founded by Europe are asked to quite Twitter and to advertise loud about it....

                      On the other side, I've tried many time to join Twitter trough the TOR network !! ( That protect your anonymity )
                      But those accounts are within 6 hours banned....

                      So, I don't understand , why the fuck, Twitter ban people that use TOR !? If they were really wanted the common good...

                      Note that peoples that live in Europe and create a Twitter ( or actually any social media account ) without TOR or something similar take tremendous risk to do so !

                      Any way Twitter is a centralized platform and this is not good ! can't wait to see a real decentralized place, kind like Lemmy, but Lemmy can be bring down too easily ! compare to an .onion

                       

                      if the freedom of expression is limited to the ideas that we like, it is not freedom of expression.
                      Noam Chomsky.

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                      I have to admit I'm glad that Elon Musk & Donald Trump exist, to balance this crazy world of censorship

                      Lol, yeah they're totally free speech absolutists and not fascists who attack their political enemies and anyone who doesn't kiss the ring. /s

                      A funny meme, but sadly real...

                      No, it's not. The government isn't scared of censoring lawful speech, regardless of how many guns we have. That's a fantasy promoted by gun lovers with a hero complex. Look at how many protests to which they send goon squads. Also, average Americans have no idea what goes on in Europe. Americans are self-centered ignoramuses and think the entire world revolves around them.

                      So Twitter ( aka X ) bought by Mr. Musk is a relieve. Apparently ( since they clean it ) a space with no, or less censorship Hooray !

                      You can't possibly be this naive. You're trolling, right? Elon Musk is a Nazi. He routinely silences people he doesn't like, especially anyone of note who calls out his bad behavior.

                      So, I don't understand , why the fuck, Twitter ban people that use TOR !? If they were really wanted the common good...

                      Because they're not. They don't give two shits about the public good. Elon bought Twitter to influence elections; it's his personal propaganda machine. I can't believe you are this ignorant...

                      Any way Twitter is a centralized platform and this is not good ! can't wait to see a real decentralized place, kind like Lemmy, but Lemmy can be bring down too easily ! compare to an .onion

                      No it can't. Governments around the world would have to take each individual instance down. They can't just ban Lemmy, because it's not a single company.

                      Also, Mastodon exists. Do some research on the Fediverse.

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