Open-R1: a fully open reproduction of DeepSeek-R1

[neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I wouldn’t necessarily call it key logging but all these services are going to store anything you search.

[land@lemmy.ml]

People in Europe are so paranoid when it comes to Chinese AI, but they completely ignore what ChatGPT does with their data.

[kiagam@lemmy.world]

https://youtu.be/Nl7aCUsWykg

Fireship maybe? It is not that complicated, they just make a good cheap AI and big tech is panicking because they can only make good expensive AI

[kornblumenratte@feddit.org]

Of course – if the AI is supposed to give you an answer, they have to know what you are writing, so yes, logging your keystrokes is quintessential for every online service you interact with. You cannot get an answer without asking.

The wording is strange, though, and I'm not sure whether this ToS allows them to collect and process what you are typing while using their service, or all your typing.

[magicshel@lemmy.zip]

Keystroke patterns and rhythms is above and beyond, though. That's not remotely necessary and the kind of thing that can only be used to track an individual across multiple platforms and attempts at anonymity. I don't know how effective it is at that, but that is the sole purpose unless maybe they are training a better autocorrect tool and think that would be helpful.

At any rate, that's the point where I noped out. They are completely honest about putting every effort into identifying users and associating them with real identity. Such a system would be quite capable of de-anonymizing marketing profiles, health data, etc. by correlating vast amounts of data.

[icastfist@programming.dev]

logging your keystrokes is quintessential for every online service you interact with

No, it is not. Services expect the "complete" payload, whether a prompt, a text message, or whatever, it doesn't matter if you typed it, if you copy-pasted it or something else. None of them need to analyze stuff you've typed, deleted and never sent.

[eggymachus@sh.itjust.works]

Whose ToS is this?

[land@lemmy.ml]

DeepSeek.

[tramort@programming.dev]

Quintessential does not mean "really essential", and does not make sense in this context.

You can't really be quintessential "for" something; only quintessential of something.

[robin@lemmy.world]

Playing devil's advocate here. Mouse movements and key presses have been commonly used as bot detection method for a decade now. Like that captcha service that is just a checkbox, that's part of how they guessed that you are not a bot.

[zerozaku@lemmy.world]

Damn it we need Private-R1 now

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

"keystroke patterns or rhythms"???

Fuckin' hell.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

Yeah, no. I mean yes - that's true, and yes it's a way to detect bots, and no I'm not going to allow that wherever possible.

[danitos@reddthat.com]

But this is a model that can be run on your local hardware, isn't it? There's a huge difference between OpenAI storing the propmts I send them and a local model phoning home everything I type into my PC

[lapping6596@lemmy.world]

Generally yes, but there is one use case where every key stroke is often recorded and analyzed, a search bar. If it's trying to fill out suggestions as you type, every keystroke is recorded as you go.

[wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world]

"B-b-but look, they are doing it too!"

Yes, and we hate them, too. What's your point?

[greenknight23@lemmy.world]

if you're not running your AI on vlaned or gapped hardware you're gonna have a bad time.

[icastfist@programming.dev]

They don't need to read the keystrokes, they need to read what's in the input box. In programming terms, you're evaluating the field in real time, you're not waiting for the "send request", nor are you keylogging, otherwise the existence of the field would be irrelevant.

[cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca]

Fuuuuck that.

[kornblumenratte@feddit.org]

Ethymologically you are right, I wasn't really aware of the alchemical background of five rounds of destillation when I wrote my comment.

Nonetheless, "quintessential for" is not unheard (or rather unread?) of:

It will take another generation or two until this usage becomes normalized, so thank you for pointing me to a better style.