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Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok

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  • D [email protected]

    adding missing information and deleting errors

    Which is to say, "I'm sick of Grok accurately portraying me as an evil dipshit, so I'm going to feed it a bunch of right-wing talking points and get rid of anything that hurts my feelings."

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    That is definitely how I read it.

    History can’t just be ‘rewritten’ by A.I. and taken as truth. That’s fucking stupid.

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    • P [email protected]

      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

      Then retrain on that.

      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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      advanced reasoning

      If it's so advanced, it should be able to reason out that all human knowledge is standing in the shoulders of others and how errors have prompted us to explore other areas and learn things we never would have otherwise.

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      • P [email protected]

        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

        Then retrain on that.

        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

        Source.

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        Don't feed the trolls.

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        • P [email protected]

          We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

          Then retrain on that.

          Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

          Source.

          ::: spoiler More Context

          Source.

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          [My] translation: "I want to rewrite history to what I want".

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          • N [email protected]

            Wikipedia is quite resilient - you can even put it on a USB drive. As long as you have a free operating system, there will always be ways to access it.

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            I keep a partial local copy of Wikipedia on my phone and backup device with an app called Kiwix. Great if you need access to certain items in remote areas with no access to the internet.

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            • K [email protected]

              Thinking wikipedia or other unbiased sources will still be available in a decade or so is wishful thinking. Once the digital stranglehold kicks in, it'll be mandatory sign-in with gov vetted identity provider and your sources will be limited to what that gov allows you to see. MMW.

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              Yes. There will be no websites only AI and apps. You will be automatically logged in to the apps. Linux, Lemmy will be baned. We will be classed as hackers and criminals. We probably have to build our own mesh network for communication or access it from a secret location.

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                asdf

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                Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source of information for anything regarding contemporary politics or economics.

                Wikipedia presents the views of reliable sources on notable topics. The trick is what sources are considered "reliable" and what topics are "notable", which is why it's such a poor source of information for things like contemporary politics in particular.

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                • hupf@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                  1.68 IQ move

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                  More like 0.7056 IQ move.

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                  • const_void@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                    Guessing some kind of PR campaign that he purchased to make him look like a genius on TV and movies.

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                    It took a while but in the end we found out why the internet was full of Putin and Musk's memes a few years ago.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      We have seen from his many other comments about this, that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points. So that will definitely be easier to achieve if he does it that way.

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                      that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points.

                      Then he has utterly failed with Grok. One of my new favorite pastimes is watching right wingers get angry that Grok won't support their most obviously counterfactual bullshit and then proceed to try to argue it into saying something they can declare a win from.

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                      • thegreenwizard@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                        Wikipedia gives lists of their sources, judge what you read based off of that. Or just skip to the sources and read them instead.

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                        Just because Wikipedia offers a list of references doesn't mean that those references reflect what knowledge is actually out there. Wikipedia is trying to be academically rigorous without any of the real work. A big part of doing academic research is reading articles and studies that are wrong or which prove the null hypothesis. That's why we need experts and not just an AI to regurgitate information. Wikipedia is useful if people understand it's limitations, I think a lot of people don't though.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          [My] translation: "I want to rewrite history to what I want".

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                          That was my first impression, but then it shifted into "I want my AI to be the shittiest of them all".

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                          • P [email protected]

                            We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                            Then retrain on that.

                            Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                            Source.

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                            Source.

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                            Not sure if has been said already. Fuck musk.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                              Then retrain on that.

                              Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                              Source.

                              ::: spoiler More Context

                              Source.

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                              Elon Musk, like most pseudo intellectuals, has a very shallow understanding of things. Human knowledge is full of holes, and they cannot simply be resolved through logic, which Mush the dweeb imagines.

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                              • I [email protected]

                                Just because Wikipedia offers a list of references doesn't mean that those references reflect what knowledge is actually out there. Wikipedia is trying to be academically rigorous without any of the real work. A big part of doing academic research is reading articles and studies that are wrong or which prove the null hypothesis. That's why we need experts and not just an AI to regurgitate information. Wikipedia is useful if people understand it's limitations, I think a lot of people don't though.

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                                For sure, Wikipedia is for the most basic subjects to research, or the first step of doing any research (they could still offer helpful sources) . For basic stuff, or quick glances of something for conversation.

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                                • K [email protected]

                                  That was my first impression, but then it shifted into "I want my AI to be the shittiest of them all".

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                                  #124

                                  Why not both?

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    asdf

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                                    So what would you consider to be a trustworthy source?

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                      Then retrain on that.

                                      Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                      Source.

                                      ::: spoiler More Context

                                      Source.

                                      Source.
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                                      He's been frustrated by the fact that he can't make Wikipedia 'tell the truth' for years. This will be his attempt to replace it.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

                                        Then retrain on that.

                                        Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

                                        Source.

                                        ::: spoiler More Context

                                        Source.

                                        Source.
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                                        I never would have thought it possible that a person could be so full of themselves to say something like that

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.

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                                          To be fair, your brain is a pattern-matching system.

                                          When you catch a ball, you’re not doing the physics calculations in your head- you’re making predictions based on an enormous quantity of input. Unless you’re being very deliberate, you’re not thinking before you speak every word- your brain’s predictive processing takes over and you often literally speak before you think.

                                          Fuck LLMs- but I think it’s a bit wild to dismiss the power of a sufficiently advanced pattern-matching system.

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