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  • S [email protected]

    The entitlement is strong. But not with the person who creates an open source emulator in their spare time and gives it away for free, but for those who demand free support.

    It's a quite common issue with open source stuff.

    • Dude makes a thing.
    • Dude thinks maybe others could benefit from it, so he gives it away for free
    • Entitled morons think customer is king also applies for stuff they didn't pay for and demand free support
    • Dude gets overwhelmed and frustrated by having to play free customer support hotline for his free product and after a while pulls back
    • Entitled morons get up in arms and call dude condescending and worse for not doing free customer support for the free thing, somehow believing that dude owes them something.
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    Completely agree, and entitled gamers are some of the worst.
    Though I don’t think that should completely excuse our dev here from handling it poorly. They made their product worse and then was surprised when things got worse.
    Ultimately it’s their prerogative for which systems they choose to develop. Fortunately there are alternatives.

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    • S [email protected]

      You could if you want fork from when it was GPLv3: https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/7f4e5d55dbdef5a50e0aa4994f667fb03d854928

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      #47

      But how did he changed from copyleft licence to stricter? Isn't it already vialenced copyleft licence?

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      • S [email protected]

        The entitlement is strong. But not with the person who creates an open source emulator in their spare time and gives it away for free, but for those who demand free support.

        It's a quite common issue with open source stuff.

        • Dude makes a thing.
        • Dude thinks maybe others could benefit from it, so he gives it away for free
        • Entitled morons think customer is king also applies for stuff they didn't pay for and demand free support
        • Dude gets overwhelmed and frustrated by having to play free customer support hotline for his free product and after a while pulls back
        • Entitled morons get up in arms and call dude condescending and worse for not doing free customer support for the free thing, somehow believing that dude owes them something.
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        #48

        Why did they have to provide support? That is the part that is confusing. You could say they can't get anything done due to bug requests and can't seperate the spam from the ham, but nobody makes anyone do support.

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        • mentaledge@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

          I think I've been using pcsxr for too long to care.

          Is there anything that makes duckstation worth using over the other psx emulators?

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          Apparently it's really good. I think I have it on my steam deck. But I recently just dusted off a ps3 (which has a ps1 built in) made it network ready and viola.

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          • S [email protected]

            Because he kept getting entitled support requests for badly packaged versions of his project in some linux distros.

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            No, that came after he changed the license. Linux users installed an old version because that was the newest version that was allowed to be packaged. Then, people gave bug reports and feature requests, based on that old version (which were already addressed in newer versions), mostly because they didn't know any better.

            It's not entitlement if you want to use the package manager on a linux system.

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            • O [email protected]

              But how did he changed from copyleft licence to stricter? Isn't it already vialenced copyleft licence?

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              The dev did develop most things himself so they have the copyright and can relicense freely. Also, they've asked other major contributors whether they agree with him relicensing their code, which they were seemingly okay with. Small contributions aren't copyrightable anyway, and/or the dev likely has rewritten them already.

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                The post says AUR builds are being blocked and soon Linux support will be dropped entirely.

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                it is okay for a FOSS project to start with one person.

                but if it is growing and there is still only one persons doing most commits, that is a yellow flag. sign to look at alternatives.

                i am speaking as both user and maintainer.

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                • antibullyranger@ani.socialA [email protected]

                  Not to break a few illusions of scholastic integrity, but when making a doctoral thesis, you're not there to make friends. Social skills drop as you go up the academic ladder, and it's designed this way.

                  I'm not saying I sympathize either, but society doesn't make it easier for masters to earn their doctorates. A simple “Who was your day, wanna go grab tea, hey let's unwind at xyz” does resharpen social skills like you won't believe.

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                  "Who was your day" lol

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                    "Who was your day" lol

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                    "Who was your day"

                    Bro that's how you skillsmax

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                    • I [email protected]

                      The post says AUR builds are being blocked and soon Linux support will be dropped entirely.

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                      ITT: entitled users who believe that FOSS devs deserve to work themselves to death so they can continue to illegally pirate games while simultaneously complain about licensing law.

                      it's disgusting. doesn't matter if he's not a nice guy. he's still right to set limits on what he is willing to support and it's not Arch(and now all of Linux).

                      don't like it? fork it and maintain a new version of it, call it "corkscrew" for the weird shape of ducks pebis.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        it is okay for a FOSS project to start with one person.

                        but if it is growing and there is still only one persons doing most commits, that is a yellow flag. sign to look at alternatives.

                        i am speaking as both user and maintainer.

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                        He even rewrote parts of the code that weren't by him in order to remove the GPL license.

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