They're clogging exhaust pipes with foam: Russian sabotage in Germany to discredit the Greens?

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me with this idea:

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The idea of hurting the Green Party in the elections as well as depressing support for environmentalism in general appeals to you, does it?

Pretty interesting.

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The Green Party has been doing far too good a job of sabotaging itself. Blaming deep cover Russian agitators disguised a handful of petty environmental radicals for their limping poll numbers is illustrative of their abysmal domestic track record and complete inability to generate positive headlines.

Lay voters are not going to be inspired to vote for your bloc on the grounds that Russia is being very mean and unfair to you. This is American Democratic tier campaign strategy.

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If that's the interpretation you walk away with, you may be beyond repair.

Spray foam is cheap. Dirt cheap. The idea that it can be used in interesting ways; I'll take it.

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They literally found the people who did it, and found the trail of evidence that led to the Russians, and the explanation for why they didn't want the Greens in power.

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They literally found the specific people who did it, and found the trail of evidence that led to the Russians, and the explanation for why the Russians didn't want the Greens in power.

It's also fascinating to me that the Russians are for people voting for Greens, in places where they can't gain power, and against it in places where they might actually come to power and enact some of these extremely-sensible policies that are on their web site.

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What a load of crap.

The Greens are under attack from every other party like no other, and are polling very stable.

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Honestly looking at Russian espionage and interference techniques seems like a good starting point for any citizens who want to oppose their government’s actions. Anti-Trump Americans might want to take notes.

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I'm truly fascinated to find someone out here saying, "Nothing to see here! Please disperse."

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I think what they're saying is "I may not agree with why they did it where they did, but I can imagine reasons and places where the tactic would be a good thing."

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Why would a tactic that's deliberately designed by successful professionals to depress support for environmental causes, for pretty obvious reasons if you take a look at it, be a good thing to employ?

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The tactic disables vehicles. If a vehicle needs to be disabled, and expanding foam is handy, Bob's your uncle.

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Can they come and do it around here to all the cars with twatty exhausts?

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Thanks for idea!

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No it doesn't. This tactic disables vehicles for a few minutes, until someone fixes it, and is likely to produce a permanent opposition in the person whose vehicle was minorly vandalized to anything activist or environmental.

Green Party people getting elected, and then enacting policies which curb emissions or reduce dependence on ICE vehicles, disables vehicles.

Of course, if you were talking about some other kind of activism which is designed to more permanently disable certain vehicle for certain specific reasons, there are a lot more semi-permanent ways of doing it than this. This is tailor-made to be useless and annoying, which is why the Russians liked it so much, and made sure to leave a card by the Greens taking credit for it.

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That's actually quite good promotion for me: If russia goes to this lenghts to depress support for the greens, they are doing something right. If Putin doesn't want them to be in power, I very well would like to have them there

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You should also know that the person you're talking to was talking up the Greens in the US, saying that it makes perfect sense for people to support them instead of Democrats and saying we needed to reform things to try to get them in power, back when that was the electoral message that would produce a particular impact on the electorate. It's only in Europe that they have nothing good to say about the Greens. They also contrasted Trump's environmental policies favorably to Biden's, who they said was causing all kinds of environmental problems.

https://ponder.cat/comment/332122

https://ponder.cat/comment/332206

https://ponder.cat/comment/332283

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Of course, but that's because you know it was the russians. The average voter might think the Greens and/or their voters are dumb/assholes, that "Russia did it" is just an excuse, and therefore shouldn't vote them

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They're clogging exhaust pipes with foam: Russian sabotage in Germany to discredit the Greens?