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Why do so many conservatives in the US bash on California all the time?

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    Since nobody here is giving any actual reasons and just putting up straw men, let me give you the real reasons.

    Crowded and high cost of living.

    And because politics, those two points extend into lots of homeless (crowded) and "liberal initiatives" (cost of living). But it's always rooted into crowded and high cost of living.

    But what about large cities in the red states? Yes, the same is said of those. Crowded and high cost of living.

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    So. Propoganda.

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      What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

      *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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      CA republicans hate California just as much

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      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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        They hate the proof that their ideas suck and the ones they fight work, even when you fuck it up kinda badly.

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          The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.

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          Breathable air? That's just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.

          If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.

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          • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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            I've never been to Alabama but I'll still shit on it because I've seen statistics and stories about how bad it is there. Same with Republicans. California is definitely one of the better states to live in by most metrics but it does have huge wealth inequality combined with its large population means there's no shortage of people in poverty and statistics and stories from that group that fox News can shove in the face of there audience and pretend that's how everyone in California is living.

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            • P [email protected]

              I would guess most midwesterners have not been, so they dont know the reality of the place. So anyone can say it's full of bad people and they won't bat an eye.

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              It’s easy to hate and fear the “other” - not just a conservative thing, though I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it.

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                A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                I'm not conservative but the last time i was in LA precovid it was actually a really shit place. Streets were gross, homeless everywhere, insane wealth disparity and so much sprawl. Food was 11/10. The economy probably wouldnt be what it is without silicon valley.

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                  California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

                  It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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                  That needs to stop

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                  • M [email protected]

                    What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

                    *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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                    Imagine what California could accomplish without having to fight the rural Republican anchor dragging shit down constantly due to their propaganda.

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                      A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                      They jelly of that economy

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                      • T [email protected]

                        CA republicans hate California just as much

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                        Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.

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                          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                          It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

                          They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

                          There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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                            California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

                            It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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                            Oh dear, I have to post it again:

                            Fuck the south

                            Look at the economies of southern red states. They're fucking garbage and they turn out some of the most reprehensible personalities in our country. Pathetic.

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                              It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

                              They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

                              There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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                              I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head

                              i say living on the west coast after I escaped the drudgery that is the Midwest

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                                They jelly of that economy

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                                "B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!"

                                To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It's a myth.

                                Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong way from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.

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                                  Breathable air? That's just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.

                                  If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.

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                                    It’s easy to hate and fear the “other” - not just a conservative thing, though I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it.

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                                    I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it

                                    Looks at responses in this topic

                                    Are you sure about that? People who are in deep on both sides of the political spectrum behave exactly the same way in regards to things like this. This is just a thread of bash the “red states” because they……bash the “blue states” lol.

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                                      Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of "liberals", etc. etc.

                                      And yet, it's the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.

                                      They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.

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                                      4th largest*

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                                        It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

                                        They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

                                        There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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                                        You're thinking of educated people, the people who hate California could never think things that far through. They are the uneducated masses who eat up what fox news sells them, and then regurgitate it. They've never talked to a minority or someone outside their economic class. They know their small reality, and can't conceptualize a society bigger or more complex than that.

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                                        • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                                          I'm on some outdoor forums and the most common complaints I hear about "Commiefornia" relate to gun control. They like their guns, and despise anyone who tries to interfere with that. The rest is mostly side issues.

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