China to impose 34% retaliatory tariff on all goods imported from the U.S.
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Still what? I've already explained China isn't attacking. And if you would like Taiwan to be independent petition your own government.
How do you feel about the other aggressive things China is doing? Like attacking boats with water cannons because they just claim an area? Or dumping sand somewhere to make an island to claim the area? Or actual fighting and deaths over territories with India?
I think we have already established your view on Taiwan, which is hardly compatible with the general population.
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Yeah. I guess we should go back to Monarchy by that logic. Seems to be a very strong system that didn't fail for centuries and centuries. I guess when the first revolutions against monarchs failed people should have just given up and not tried to improve upon existing systems.
Zzzzzzz. Get better arguments.
How is that what you got from my comment? Monarchies failed all the time and people were miserable, like in any communist thing we had so far.
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As an example of that, Canada currently depends massively on trading with the US. US tariffs are devastating to Canada's economy.
But, over the last week or so, the Canadian dollar has done extremely well against the US dollar because for all the damage the US is doing to Canada, it's hurting itself so much more.
And I hope Canada can manage to find stronger trade partners with everyone else, especially the EU
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Can we please this time support the Communist and Socialist organizations that did armed protest in order to get those actual results? Can we please please learn from history and not allow the capitalist to continue to control the means of production? Because in another 100 years we'll be in the exact same place with the ruling class trying to destroy the social safetynets that only served as temporary measures.
We need a real systemic change in who deciding how the economy is run and who's interest it is meant to serve.
How long will we keep pretending a bunch of 20-30 year old white dudes in the 1700s had the best idea of how to run things?
Most people recognize that communism as an actual government has been trash, but do strongly support the Nordic model with capitalism coupled with socialist-lite pro worker policies. Free trade and capitalism makes so much money that you can't do without it, but it does suck for workers because all the money ends up with the owner class. A pro people socialist-lite Nordic model helps everyone but it needs the money from free trade to afford it.
I do understand the difference between communism as an ideal model that only comes after socialism but that's not how it is used in the real world.
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And I hope Canada can manage to find stronger trade partners with everyone else, especially the EU
It would be smart to diversify, but it's going to take a long time, and it's never going to be as efficient as just moving things across the biggest land border in the world.
Canada would have to build up the Atlantic shipping ports, and all the rail and highway connections leading to those ports to do more business with Europe. That's going to be expensive and take a long time.
As an example, Australia is an isolated continent so everything entering/leaving has to go by port. Its largest port is the Port of Port Hedland in WA. That port handles more than 500 million tonnes of cargo every year.
By contrast, the biggest port in Canada is the Port of Vancouver which handles only 140 million metric tonnes, less than 1/3 of what Port Hedland handles. Australia has multiple other ports over 100 million tonnes too.
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60 years ago there was no fox news and social media. These morons will forget in 2 months let alone 2 or 4 years.
The American electorate dumber than a bag of rocks
Rocks are smarter than fucking MAGA. Those neo-Nazi Russian supporting asswipes have a vacuum between their ears.
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With USA committing political and economic suicide, the road is now clear for China to become the world dominating power.
I just hope they will take a graceful approach to their role, when nobody is in a position to oppose them.China will fail, because the 1st World Asian countries view the CCP and PLA like the Europeans do toward Russia. China under the CCP is not beacon, but a dump.
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I can't find details of what China's existing tariffs on the US were? I'm not saying I don't belief you, I'm interested in what they were - any chance you could link me to the details please?
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This was his response. Very sane. Very calm. Not at all unhinged.
.../s
So is it all caps these days all the time?
Such old man yells at clouds vibes
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Now that USA will spiral down to deep depression, it’s going to be much easier to get the people behind whatever plan comes next.
So, how about you build a new empire, invade neighboring countries, commit war crimes left and right, and start exterminating people who don’t fit your arbitrary criteria. Germany tried that and it everything worked out perfectly.
Oh, wait…
Well anyway. I’m out of ideas.
Australia never had an empire, maybe it’s time?
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- China’s finance ministry on Friday said it will impose a 34% tariff on all goods imported from the U.S. starting on April 10.
- The ministry criticized Washington’s decision to impose 34% of additional reciprocal levies on China — bringing total U.S. tariffs against the country to 54% — as “inconsistent with international trade rules.”
- U.S. stock futures and European markets fell sharply on news of the reciprocal tariffs.
Serious question.
They didn’t put this on Canada right? So shouldn’t prices in Canada stay relatively low?
Wouldn’t China want to buy more from Canada and vice versa?
Surely corporates won’t price gouge this time
/s
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So is it all caps these days all the time?
Such old man yells at clouds vibes
My experience with elderly relatives is that all caps is the only way they can read the screen.
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Farmers are super stressed and are at a higher risk of suicide. Voting for the Donvict was a sure way to make farming more stressful. Not only does the wealthy brat from the big city see you as a mark to exploit, he really doesn't actually care about you losing all your export customers and losing your farm. He's busy golfing at taxpayers' expense.
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How is that what you got from my comment? Monarchies failed all the time and people were miserable, like in any communist thing we had so far.
Individual Monarchy's failing is not what I mean. I'm talking about the transition between a world ruled by monarchs under feudalism to a world rule by capitalist under capitalism.
That transition took centuries with many failed attempts to dissolve the Monarchy and replace it with forms of a democracy under different class structures and in many different parts of the world. The one that won out in the west was capitalism. But attempts to dissolve the existing class structures of the monarch failed countless times. And even ones that succeeded also eventually failed.
My point is. You are essentially a peasant in the 1500s saying "the kings is sanctioned by God to rule us! There is clearly no better system! Look at the Greeks! Those idiots tried a class based democracy and it failed! Monarchy has been the best system for centuries! My family was meant to toil the land for the king! The king is much greater than I!"
Capitalist economies have failed, fuedalist economies have failed, socialist economies have failed, that doesn't mean that this systems are not positive progressions from one another.
It is such a simplistic and naive understanding of history to expect capitalism to continue forever. Especially when it's systems inherently rely on an oppressive class hierarchy just as the others did.
And many of the brief experiments with socialism have been absolutely successful, beneficial, and most importantly BETTER than the systems that came before it.
Cuba under socialism is SIGNIFICANTLY better than it's sugar plantation slavery under its fascist dictatorship.
Russia under Stalin was significantly better for its people than under the Tsarist rule. It brought a feudalist peasant society to a state where it defeated the Nazis (most of which Europe failed to do).
To act like an economic system is inherently good or bad is naive. It can absolutely fail and have its problems. But capitalism has absolutely failed and has significantly more problems on our planet than it solves.
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According to MSN's timeline of the tariff war, it started with Trumps first term where he enacted Tariffs on China in 2017-2018. So it looks like Trump started it.
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Australia never had an empire, maybe it’s time?
there was the EMU and kangaroo dynasties,.
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60 years ago there was no fox news and social media. These morons will forget in 2 months let alone 2 or 4 years.
The American electorate dumber than a bag of rocks
they had the southern strategy which were racists and bigots, it works.
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Farmers are super stressed and are at a higher risk of suicide. Voting for the Donvict was a sure way to make farming more stressful. Not only does the wealthy brat from the big city see you as a mark to exploit, he really doesn't actually care about you losing all your export customers and losing your farm. He's busy golfing at taxpayers' expense.
they did during the soybean tariffs, most of them lost thier farms, or suicided. After things was lifted, China had no need to source soybeans from america anymore.
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Serious question.
They didn’t put this on Canada right? So shouldn’t prices in Canada stay relatively low?
Wouldn’t China want to buy more from Canada and vice versa?
Surely corporates won’t price gouge this time
/s
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Individual Monarchy's failing is not what I mean. I'm talking about the transition between a world ruled by monarchs under feudalism to a world rule by capitalist under capitalism.
That transition took centuries with many failed attempts to dissolve the Monarchy and replace it with forms of a democracy under different class structures and in many different parts of the world. The one that won out in the west was capitalism. But attempts to dissolve the existing class structures of the monarch failed countless times. And even ones that succeeded also eventually failed.
My point is. You are essentially a peasant in the 1500s saying "the kings is sanctioned by God to rule us! There is clearly no better system! Look at the Greeks! Those idiots tried a class based democracy and it failed! Monarchy has been the best system for centuries! My family was meant to toil the land for the king! The king is much greater than I!"
Capitalist economies have failed, fuedalist economies have failed, socialist economies have failed, that doesn't mean that this systems are not positive progressions from one another.
It is such a simplistic and naive understanding of history to expect capitalism to continue forever. Especially when it's systems inherently rely on an oppressive class hierarchy just as the others did.
And many of the brief experiments with socialism have been absolutely successful, beneficial, and most importantly BETTER than the systems that came before it.
Cuba under socialism is SIGNIFICANTLY better than it's sugar plantation slavery under its fascist dictatorship.
Russia under Stalin was significantly better for its people than under the Tsarist rule. It brought a feudalist peasant society to a state where it defeated the Nazis (most of which Europe failed to do).
To act like an economic system is inherently good or bad is naive. It can absolutely fail and have its problems. But capitalism has absolutely failed and has significantly more problems on our planet than it solves.
If you think that people in the USSR were better off you might want to read about their rights (or rather lack thereof), regardless of Russia, Ukraine etc.
Human rights in the Soviet Union
It is absolutely crazy how little rights they had, we could easily argue that a peasant in 800 was better off in terms of his rights. If we include the planned starvation of millions, then he was also better off in such basic necessities.
