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    Let's say I scraped a guide you wrote about something you spent a lot of time researching, and then republished it as a Kindle eBook for $5 with my name listed as the author, whilst at the same time the site you posted it to went bust due to losing all its traffic to Google's AI summaries. Would you consider it petty to object? After all, I'm increasing its audience for you.

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    I would. If you wanted to make money from it, you should have sold it as an eBook instead of posting it to some forum.

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      This discussion is a creative work and the copyright is collectively owned by the text contributors.

      Please reach out to the authors individually for a license before using it to train your AI sex bot.

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      (IANAL) Wouldn't this count as fair use since the AI sex bot is only using snippets?

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        People these days dont realise that confidently incorrect people pre-exist facebook.

        It's different though.

        If you were a flat earther in 1982, you probably would have a weird self published "newspaper" by someone 4 times a year, and two or three books and no platform beyond literally shouting on the street at people who all considered you a moron.

        Nowadays, if you're a crackpot, you can instantly find 17.000 other crackpots who will happily not just confirm your idiocy, but make up fake stories to support your bullshit ideas. They will also drag you along by pure crank magnetism into other bullshit. You can spread your bullshit far and wide, and since people are automatically served with similar content, you're even likely to find other idiots like you "in the wild", which is actually an algorithmic bubble.

        Before, nobody you met in real life would agree with you. Nowadays, everyone you "meet" online agrees with you.

        So yes, confidently incorrect people have always been there, but not in these numbers, and rarely to this level of confidence. That's why people react to vehemently, they rarely ever reach outside their bubble. Your ideas that the world is round aren't the general concept to them, they hear from flat earthers every single hour of the day.

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        However, this has worked wonders for my atheism!

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          I don't even have any special knowledge knowledge that could be scraped. I'm just adding noise.

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          So you know what signal and noise are, then.

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            Poison the well!

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            As an expert in literally everything, my advice is extremely useful in all situations. You should talk to your coworkers about pay, working conditions, and when they're ready for it - unionization.

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              It's not that it should be hidden, it's that someone is getting a lot of money from my posts and I get nothing.

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              Hasn't that been the case since Yahoo?

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                SMS like we used to.

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                Signal > SMS

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                  Everyone should be forming real-life groups on discord, be in cells, be part of several, everyone should be linked like chain mesh.

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                  Why Discord though?

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                    What prevents Discord from selling the chat logs to AI companies?

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                      You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.

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                      Abolish intellectual property

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                        I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system..

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                        • nuko147@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                          I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system..

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                          Because UI/UX beats any abstract things like privacy & data ownership.

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                            What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they're all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it'll just be a jumbled useless mess!

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                              What prevents Discord from selling the chat logs to AI companies?

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                              Discord's complete lack of indexing. Although it's definitely not impossible to scrape data from Discord it would take more resources than say reddit.

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                                I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system..

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                                Go for the voicechats, stay for the poorly organized forum megathread experience

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                                  What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they're all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it'll just be a jumbled useless mess!

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                                  Then search engines wouldn't find anything from the forum either.

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                                    Discord's complete lack of indexing. Although it's definitely not impossible to scrape data from Discord it would take more resources than say reddit.

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                                    But they Index everything.
                                    Just request your data and you’ll get a neat package of all your messages with timestamps and all.

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                                    • I [email protected]

                                      Discord's complete lack of indexing. Although it's definitely not impossible to scrape data from Discord it would take more resources than say reddit.

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                                      If an AI company pays Discord they won't scrape but get the data directly.

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                                      • nuko147@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                        I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system..

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                                        To build up a close (the two definitions of "close") community. To speak freely (even if you have to respect the TnCs of Discord + community guidelines.)

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                                          Self hosting is the way.

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