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Young US men are joining Russian churches promising 'absurd levels of manliness'

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    There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

    The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn't changing

    There's also a significant possibility we simply won't be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

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    At this point, anything start rolling, it's already too late to stop it. Nothing we can do but brace for the worst.

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

      Trans man or woman?

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      In my experience, transfemme although trans men have had interesting things to say on the topic

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        There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

        The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn't changing

        There's also a significant possibility we simply won't be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

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        If deplatforming and political action by the ruling class are the main methods to stop this crisis, then none of us had any power to do anything in the first place

        It's no wonder no one takes this seriously: the epidemic of disaffected young men is only a symptom of greater societal issues and can't effectively be addressed on its own. That's also what I was getting at with my comment

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        • J [email protected]

          JFC if someone is this worried about their "manliness" or lack thereof, there's really no hope for them.

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          And yet you're describing a wide percentage of young men

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            So basically a church of assholes competing with each other to out asshole each other. Then they wonder why their kids don't talk to them and that "manliness" skips a generation. I am willing to bet these "absurdly manly" men are in the closet and over compensating.Using an iron is too feminine? Bitch if you want to be respected as a professional don't fucking show up in wrinkled ass clothes. Why do you think the army fucking irons? Because you look good in unwrinkled clothes. God dammit I am going on a rant again.

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            Irons can burn in hell. Either steamer or dryer, but ironing legitimately sucks. It somehow makes my shirt more wrinkly than I started.

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              In my experience, transfemme although trans men have had interesting things to say on the topic

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              I guess you got off the hamster wheel at some point. I imagine trans men being faced with this stuff.. That's not to say there's no toxic stuff on the femme side of things.

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                And yet you're describing a wide percentage of young men

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                Who? People keep fucking saying there's a lot but all I see is a vocal minority? You see 1/200 and you focus on them?

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                  If you have to be told how to be "manly" then you probably definitely aren't whatever the fuck you even think "manly" is.

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                    Watching gay porn is twice as manly as watching straight porn.

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                    • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                      I guess you got off the hamster wheel at some point. I imagine trans men being faced with this stuff.. That's not to say there's no toxic stuff on the femme side of things.

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                      Oh yeah we got problems on the girl's side bit at least women aren't afraid soybeans is gonna take away their masculinity

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                        And yet you're describing a wide percentage of young men

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                        Only 75, per the article. No one writes articles like this about women getting into Wicca even though it's hundreds of times more common

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                        • D [email protected]

                          Who? People keep fucking saying there's a lot but all I see is a vocal minority? You see 1/200 and you focus on them?

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                          It's a vocal minority that is trying to appear bigger than they are with propaganda

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                            So basically a church of assholes competing with each other to out asshole each other. Then they wonder why their kids don't talk to them and that "manliness" skips a generation. I am willing to bet these "absurdly manly" men are in the closet and over compensating.Using an iron is too feminine? Bitch if you want to be respected as a professional don't fucking show up in wrinkled ass clothes. Why do you think the army fucking irons? Because you look good in unwrinkled clothes. God dammit I am going on a rant again.

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                            It's also Russian for bonus points. Masculinity is defined as being the oppressor class and thus can never attain stability

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                              Well, they'll probably have manlier problems to deal with since moving to Russia is leopard eating your face speedrun, with examples such as Russel Bentley or that one conservative Canadian family that sold their everything to move to Russia and got their money stolen by Russian banks.

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                              They're probably just hunting for a construct. I'm sure if anyone actually does move to Russia they'll just be given a gun and told to shoot ukrainians

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                                15 dumbasses in East Bumblefuck: *do something*

                                BBC: A NEW GLOBAL TREND?!?!

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                                It's propaganda. We're trying to make it look like every man's reaction because they want to years argumentum ad popularum try and make it so

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                                  And what does the article say? Eating soup isn't manly? WTF? I'd like to hear his rationale for that one, but I'd probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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                                  This kind of insecurity is intentionally cultivated for the purpose of being exploited. If you can make a man afraid of whatever kind of food you name by declaring it unmanly you can control him.

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                                    I don't know if I like soup. The only soup I ever had was cambells, and it was awful. But then everybody tells me that cambells is the bottom of the barrel scum of the soup world.

                                    So maybe I just don't like cambells.

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                                    Campbell's classic chicken noodle hits different when you're recovering from a bout of norovirus.

                                    But generally yes, canned soup is pretty bad. There's a ton of soups across most global cuisines, so many so that it's borderline unbelievable that you've never tried a single one.

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                                      I think mgtow pretty quickly became an incel movement, at least from what I saw on reddit.

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                                      That doesn't seem surprising. They both are misogyny plus not getting laid

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                                        I assume jebus is somehow involved?

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

                                          The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn't changing

                                          There's also a significant possibility we simply won't be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

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                                          The answer is violence and guns.

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