Bullying, berating Trump shows his worst self in Zelenskyy ambush
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He declined to execute the withdrawal, it didn't happen during the Trump administration.
Wars ended: 0.
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Yeah I watched the whole thing, it gets really repetitive on the American side near the end. Zeleski is trying to talk but Trump and Vance keep saying "We are special, everything will work out, be greatful, say thanks"
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I finde it borderline insane that not more people just tell the fat fuck no when he just lies.
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Vance is much less capable than Trump (and yes, I realize the complete deapth of incompetence that would imply). The harm that he could do would be negated by the complete inability of anyone around him to take him or any threat from him seriously. Especially those on his own side.
Trump, at the very least, still has the threat of his rabid fans to wield.
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while these malignant narcissists are in charge.
Not just then. Even if a standard quo administration magically appeared right now, it has been proven the the US can turn into a fascist dictatorship on a dime. It's an extremely unstable country and should be kept at arm's length as long as it has the current system of government, no matter who's in charge.
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He does. He wants Ukraine.
Okay, besides Ukraine. Yes, I think that you could set up a deal to give Putin something that he wants in exchange for a truce. The problem is Putin can't be trusted, and, sooner or later, he'll break the truce, because he really, really, really wants Ukraine.
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Then we would get President Chuck Grassley, ugh. Although he is 91, so he probably wouldn't be president for long.
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History repeating itself as a literal farce this time around
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Zelensky can only blame himself. If he showed some sense and restraint he would have returned to Ukraine with the deal. This is not the way you should act with Trump, and I should say especially not when your country depends on US support to the extend Ukraine does.
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I thought that, too. The movement will whither without a charismatic, shameless entertainer as its face and focus; who else is out there like that? Then, it hit me.
Joe Rogan.
But it's not like President Leon is cozying up to Rogan... right?
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It's a bad deal for Ukraine. No guarantee of military or financial support for the war, and they get stripped of resources. Same deal comes from Putin.
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I thought Zelensky showed remarkable constraint given the circumstances and the deal was no deal for Ukraine.
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That may be so, but I really doubt he was causing this fiasco on purpose because of the deal. Also, he could have, you know, negotiated, instead of arguing for no reason.
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This entire thing was a sham to bully Zelenskyy and make him look bad because he didn't accept a horrible deal. You took the bait, mate.
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Less capable? I’m not so sure, the dude has backchannel smarmed his way into being VP at the age of like fucking 12, he’s smart and ambitious and evil. Bad combination.
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Trump and JD talked over him and berated him. When he was able to get a word in, they didn't even listen.
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So long as we have strict elections of a singular position like president, you are pretty much going to have to vote for lesser evil. It doesn't matter how many parties are running, the president is a singular office.
Other nations with more robust parties sidestep this by having an elected body figure out the executive, rather than direct elections of that office.
if you want those third parties get them into the house and maybe the Senate, where the task is feasible. For the singular president of the nation, whoever is doing the voting will have to be strategic. I'm disenchanted when I see those parties just make a presidential run without really investing much in the down ballot races.
The fixes are either removing direct presidential election, or severely curtailing the practical powers of the office. We shouldn't be so subject to the whims of a singular position.
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Ukraine beggars are rediculous