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LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs | The free open-source Microsoft Office alternative is being downloaded by nearly 1 million users a week

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    Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

    “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

    LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

    There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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    My biggest pet peeve is since it's a suite rather than separate programs, there's only one path for saving files that's saved. So you can't have Writer save to a different location from Calc automatically.

    As someone with a lot of files and folders, and a hatred of having to click around too much, this annoys the shit out of me. But I don't think there's any way around it because of how the program was created. It's literally the one thing keeping me from switching.

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      Microsoft is going to make the S, E, A, R, and . characters subscription only for $1.99 / month.

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      So we'll have to go to libre office to spell arse?

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      • F [email protected]

        Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

        “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

        LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

        There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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        Hopefully more of us make donations. Free is good, but it's nice to contribute even small amounts to your well used FOSS apps

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        • obi@sopuli.xyzO [email protected]

          So we'll have to go to libre office to spell arse?

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          Correct, you can call Microsoft arse and any variant thereof for free on LibreOffice.

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            My biggest pet peeve is since it's a suite rather than separate programs, there's only one path for saving files that's saved. So you can't have Writer save to a different location from Calc automatically.

            As someone with a lot of files and folders, and a hatred of having to click around too much, this annoys the shit out of me. But I don't think there's any way around it because of how the program was created. It's literally the one thing keeping me from switching.

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            Do you pin favorites? If you don't, maybe that could help

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              I just find it better, to do a little research on formulas, and figuring it out yourself. You'll become better at spreadsheets. I'd have to try it though, it would depend on the actual implementation of it.

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              You’ll become better at spreadsheets

              Great! Thing is: a day only has 24 hours and right now I need to get better at managing IT infrastructure and business processes, not spreadshets.

              If you have the time to research Excel - go for it! Absolutely nobody is forcing you to use Copilot.

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                Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                LibreCalc and python for the win! I just love from bs4 import BeautifulSoup, import json, import re, import urllib.request.

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                  My friend, FOSS has been readily available for more than a decade. Whether it's LibreOffice or the GIMP or VLC or whatever, these are very old pieces of software.

                  It's not taking off now. It already did. But now you personally are noticing. 🙂

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                  Well, I've been using this software forever, I'm saying now, normal folks, I see in the light.

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                    Give Linux a whole, separate drive and then there's no concern about Windows doing anything.

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                    Yeah is that completely safe? I'm really tempted to try out Mint and I have an old M2 from my previous machine I could format and use for it. The PC is my work/editing station though so can't afford any risk. I can't really make the switch since I'm still dependent on LR+PS (Adobe...) but most of my other software should work, and I've just always wanted to get into Linux but not sure if it'll actually benefit me and my work or if it's just gonna cause me even more hassle than windows currently does.

                    I'm familiar with messing around in the BIOS, changing boot priority and formatting stuff and whatnot.

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                      Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                      “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                      LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                      There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                      European countries should adopt linux and these alternatives instead of paying for windows and Microsoft. Much more private too.

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                        Yeah is that completely safe? I'm really tempted to try out Mint and I have an old M2 from my previous machine I could format and use for it. The PC is my work/editing station though so can't afford any risk. I can't really make the switch since I'm still dependent on LR+PS (Adobe...) but most of my other software should work, and I've just always wanted to get into Linux but not sure if it'll actually benefit me and my work or if it's just gonna cause me even more hassle than windows currently does.

                        I'm familiar with messing around in the BIOS, changing boot priority and formatting stuff and whatnot.

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                        As long as you're confident in being able to distinguish between the two drives (i.e. they have different capacities), you're good.

                        The main issue people run into w/ a dual boot setup is Windows clobbering the Linux boot loader (the thing that lets you pick whether to boot into Windows or Linux) and users not knowing how to reinstall it. It will only do that on the drive it's installed to, so if Linux is on a separate drive altogether, you'll be fine. I recommend going into the BIOS settings and switching the default boot to your Linux drive, and Linux should detect the Windows installation and give you the option to boot into either one.

                        LR+PS (Adobe…)

                        This is probably going to be an issue for you, since neither has a direct replacement on Linux. However, in the worst case scenario (you hate Linux and want to nuke it from orbit), you just need to switch the boot order back in your BIOS.

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                          A backdoor isn't a flaw?

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                          Source? Afaik there's no backdoor in their cryptography, except maybe if using the cloud to back up your chats?

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                            How about this: I'll offer installation support and free tech support for three months to the first 20 people that ask. Free of charge. I only have three conditions:

                            1. You pick from a handful of distros I'm willing to support - Debian, Fedora, openSUSE Leap
                            2. You donate any amount of money to any FOSS project or contribute something to a FOSS project
                            3. I reserve the right to not help get certain Windows software working, like anything Adobe
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                            Caveat number 3 is the reason I'm still on windows, I take it that's still not an option then.

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                              European countries should adopt linux and these alternatives instead of paying for windows and Microsoft. Much more private too.

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                              and also its not american! linux is great! but imagine iwth more investment and programs need to make the apps beter compitable with linux! linux will be way better

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                                As long as you're confident in being able to distinguish between the two drives (i.e. they have different capacities), you're good.

                                The main issue people run into w/ a dual boot setup is Windows clobbering the Linux boot loader (the thing that lets you pick whether to boot into Windows or Linux) and users not knowing how to reinstall it. It will only do that on the drive it's installed to, so if Linux is on a separate drive altogether, you'll be fine. I recommend going into the BIOS settings and switching the default boot to your Linux drive, and Linux should detect the Windows installation and give you the option to boot into either one.

                                LR+PS (Adobe…)

                                This is probably going to be an issue for you, since neither has a direct replacement on Linux. However, in the worst case scenario (you hate Linux and want to nuke it from orbit), you just need to switch the boot order back in your BIOS.

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                                Right that sounds reasonable then. Switching boot order is a piece of cake and the Linux drive would be the only 128gb one in the whole array (I have a lot of drives, including a setup with stablebit drivepool, will that work?). After I'm done with this current gig in a couple days I should have a small window of free time, maybe I'll finally get to it!

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                                  Which means you have to check each and every formula and we all now how difficult it is to read and understand excel formulas we didn't write ourselves....

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                                  I find the ones I write myself hard enough to parse after 15 minutes of writing them.

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                                    Yeah! To me LibreOffice just looks dated and, to be honest, shit. OnlyOffice has a much cleaner interface.

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                                    It also isn't still carrying around 30 years of Java baggage from when it was Sun StarOffice, and everything inbetween.

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                                      Here are a couple I like:

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                                      Thanks! I'm already in [email protected] 🙂 great place!

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                                        It's a bit easier if you have a separate drive that Linux can own.

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                                        I was reading about this solution. My main laptop is a MacBook Air with M2 so I don't think I can run any version of Linux on it. I have an old windows laptop I'm thinking about trying it on.

                                        Would Linux still run fine on an older laptop?

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                                          Caveat number 3 is the reason I'm still on windows, I take it that's still not an option then.

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                                          Maybe it is, idk, but if it works it'll be a pain. If people are willing to switch software, I'm willing to help them.

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