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  • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

    After Andy Yen's endorsement of the orange utan, I would seriously reconsider using any Proton product.

    Yen tried to backpedal meekly several times since then, to get out of the pickle he got himself into with his definitely-not-impressed customers, but it's a bit late for that: either he's pro-Trump or he's naive. Either way, he makes Proton sketchy.

    ulrich@feddit.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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    There is not and never was any endorsement of Trump. I wish people would stop spreading such wild disinformation.

    He also never backpedaled.

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      https://tilde.club/signup/
      https://tilde.club/wiki/faq.html

      Remember. This is a hobbiest community. Personal recommendation is using tilde.club for emails, and spread your other needs across other tilde servers.

      Yes commandline interaction is required.

      Save your SSH keys not just on your computer but in a couple other secure places. If you have to pull them from backup, remember to reset the file's permissions otherwise SSH won't like them. Setting up a password backup is very helpful here especially since that will let you use your mail address with apps such as k-9 on android, or claws/thunderbird/outlook for desktop.

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      oh yeah def. Im going to donate if/when I take a look. sdf also has something similar.

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        Honestly they should be using https://publer.com/ or something similar. Makes publishing and maintenance of social media very easy. If you have a large org it makes sense to publish to multiple platforms.

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        There's not much point in "post and ghosting" to platform if you're not going to engage with its' users. You might as well just direct people to your blog instead.

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        • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]
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          Gross. I’m slowly moving from ProtonMail to Port87, which is kind of embarrassing because I made Port87. Switching email providers is hard though. You have to update everything.

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          • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

            Do you have any recommendations for someone who just uses them for email?

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            Try https://port87.com/

            I made it, so I’m obviously very biased, but I think it’s better than Proton. It’s got some really useful organization and anti-spam features.

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            • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

              There's not much point in "post and ghosting" to platform if you're not going to engage with its' users. You might as well just direct people to your blog instead.

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              #39

              I agree!

              Other "like" tools to publer have comment/reply options so it just goes to the HR/publicist/etc... I used to be part of a fortune 500. Its the only way to actually keep up with anything. Keyword finding, etc...etc...Its all automated nowadays.

              At this point, most have some sort of Mastodon

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              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                There is not and never was any endorsement of Trump. I wish people would stop spreading such wild disinformation.

                He also never backpedaled.

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                #40

                Here is the tweet - if that's not the most flagrant Trump bootlicking, I don't know what is:

                https://tildes.net/~society/1ldg/proton_ceo_tweets_support_for_donald_trumps_department_of_justice_pick_and_the_us_republican_party

                And here is the backpedal:

                https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/

                Believe what you want. I believe what I read.

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                • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                  Here is the tweet - if that's not the most flagrant Trump bootlicking, I don't know what is:

                  https://tildes.net/~society/1ldg/proton_ceo_tweets_support_for_donald_trumps_department_of_justice_pick_and_the_us_republican_party

                  And here is the backpedal:

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/

                  Believe what you want. I believe what I read.

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                  I wouldn't call that boot licking. Maybe a misguided opinion.

                  I think he internet mob went a little hard on this one.

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                  • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                    Considering how many users here have expressed similar disillusionment with the current Democratic party, it seems a bit hypocritical to judge Andy Yen for having the same feelings (or expressing them on occasion).

                    The only thing Yen should have done to be credible is shut the fuck up and not take any side, or express any political opinion. I expect no less from the CEO of a company that pretends to sell me privacy from a neutral country.

                    I'm not saying Yet is a raging magat. I'm saying the moment he opened his trap about US politics, he tainted his company and damaged its credibility.

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                    Ah yes, I too require everyone else to only express views that agree with my own or else keep silent. Of course, I am the only person allowed to have nuanced opinions.

                    🤡

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                    • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

                      Do you have any recommendations for someone who just uses them for email?

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                      https://purelymail.com/

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                        Ah yes, I too require everyone else to only express views that agree with my own or else keep silent. Of course, I am the only person allowed to have nuanced opinions.

                        🤡

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                        We dont use real names on the internet for a reason.

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                        • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]
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                          This might sound crazy but this is way worse to me than the CEO simping for orange man. At least for Trump he has a semi plausible excuse.

                          Reposting stuff on Mastodon or Bluesky barely requires any additional effort. And I cannot think of a good reason to close abandon the free publicity when they already have it set up.

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                            Not even Bluesky, they went straight to Reddit. Shame.

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                            It's a sad day when "you can find us over on Discord" is a better option.

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                            • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                              Here is the tweet - if that's not the most flagrant Trump bootlicking, I don't know what is:

                              https://tildes.net/~society/1ldg/proton_ceo_tweets_support_for_donald_trumps_department_of_justice_pick_and_the_us_republican_party

                              And here is the backpedal:

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/

                              Believe what you want. I believe what I read.

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                              Here is the tweet

                              I know exactly what you're referring to.

                              if that's not the most flagrant Trump bootlicking, I don't know what is

                              I agree, you don't know what is.

                              And here is the backpedal

                              I don't see anything here that could be construed as backpedaling. If he were smart he would have, but if anything, he doubled down several times.

                              I believe what I read.

                              You didn't read that, you made it up.

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                                Does Proton really support Trump? A deeper analysis

                                One thing to note is that while on Reddit, people are alleging that Proton is a company run by a fascist, pro-MAGA, pro-dictatorship CEO, users on X are accusing Andy and the company of being anti-MAGA/anti-Trump.

                                So, in the face of all the evidence I’ve found, to compare Andy to a tech oligarch like Zuck and Elon, who are now bootlicking on display for all to see, is not supported by the evidence.
                                [...]
                                However, being disillusioned with one party on one issue doesn’t mean that all of a sudden Andy Yen changed all of his stances and that now he’s actually pro-Republican or pro-MAGA. All of the evidence gathered suggests the exact opposite.

                                Considering how many users here have expressed similar disillusionment with the current Democratic party, it seems a bit hypocritical to judge Andy Yen for having the same feelings (or expressing them on occasion).

                                This whole "Proton supports MAGA" thing is another example of internet mob-think where everybody has an opinion informed by no facts at all, actively ignires or dismisses the larger context in order to protect that fragile opinion from reality, and most haven't even looked at the original statements that sparked the controversy.

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                                At least personally I agree with the part of his statement about the corporate capture of the democratic party, I don't think that's the part most people have a problem with imo. It was saying that republicans are now the party of the little guy, or more likely to tackle abuses by big tech that was dumb. Obviously neither party is going to seriously go after any abuse or anything, but the richest tech CEO is blatantly running the country under the republican president, so saying they're "more likely" to help is straight up a lie lol. I don't think calling Andy a fascist is correct either, but I also very much disagree with his opinions of the republican party. Under either party billionaires and corporations are in control, but Trump is definitely not making that better at all.

                                And honestly all things considered Lina Khan was a pretty great FTC chair tbh, and Johnathan Kanter was pretty decent as the head of the antitrust division too. He was probably a lot better than Gail Slater will be. She's literally a VP in a few different big companies, so touting her as a champion of the people against the abuses of big tech feels either misinformed or disingenuous.

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                                  Any alternative free VPN's

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                                  • extremedullard@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                                    After Andy Yen's endorsement of the orange utan, I would seriously reconsider using any Proton product.

                                    Yen tried to backpedal meekly several times since then, to get out of the pickle he got himself into with his definitely-not-impressed customers, but it's a bit late for that: either he's pro-Trump or he's naive. Either way, he makes Proton sketchy.

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                                    Any alternatives for their VPN service with port forwarding?

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                                      Try https://port87.com/

                                      I made it, so I’m obviously very biased, but I think it’s better than Proton. It’s got some really useful organization and anti-spam features.

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                                      The labeling idea is pretty interesting, an email service with inbuilt proxy, but your website is pretty light on details. Stuff like pricing or custom domain support.

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                                        Any alternatives for their VPN service with port forwarding?

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                                        Private internet access is nice

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                                        • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

                                          The labeling idea is pretty interesting, an email service with inbuilt proxy, but your website is pretty light on details. Stuff like pricing or custom domain support.

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                                          Good point. I’ll add that.

                                          I’m working on custom domain support right now. And pricing is pretty straightforward, since I only have extra storage and sending options. You get 500MB for free, and the ability to receive email. Sending is $1/month. I put that behind a paywall to prevent spammers from using Port87. As a small email service, if you send spam, the big players can blocklist you and kill your service. So, keeping my SMTP servers’ IP address reputation high is really important.

                                          You can join the Discord to follow along with new features and updates:

                                          https://discord.gg/NNPxVx7P

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