Anon does the shopping
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Sorry but I cant agree to disagree. Not because I don't agree that they could be called "fancier" while not strictly fitting the definition of fancy, but because I enjoy arguing to much to ever stop.
That's fair, arguing is pretty great, especially if it's something entirely pointless.
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Sorry but I cant agree to disagree. Not because I don't agree that they could be called "fancier" while not strictly fitting the definition of fancy, but because I enjoy arguing to much to ever stop.
I think I know the source of the problem.
You’re a Dino guy, but I have the solution!
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Dinosaur... nuts? Never heard of 'em
Come over to my place sometime.
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You've picked out the single definition that fits your narrative, and many many things will fit the definition "not plain". I also see that in the definition that you linked right after it says not plain it says "ornamental." And while I'm sure there are some people who might use children's bee plates as an ornament, I can't imagine that there is very many.
But beyond all that fancy also means elaborate, which they're not. Along with ornamental, impressive, of particular excellence, decorative, expensive, and high quality. Which these plates are not.
Now you're just arguing that your personal taste in what is fancy or not is objective
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My partner would never do this, because she knows I would buy goatse plates.
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Meh. Plastic plates suck for other reasons... More and more plastic waste sucks
wrote last edited by [email protected]I sorta' agree with you in that wasted plastic is bad, yes. However, I simply have to disagree with plastic plates in general being a bad thing.
I've owned a full set of composite plates for, I'm not kidding or exaggerating, 20 years now. Mum bought them while I was mid-way through high-school and they proved to be so much better than the old porcelain, that she steadily replaced our tableware with composite. And I liked them so much, that I stole that set from mum once I finished Uni!
And it wasn't just those plates, everything lasted! The only things ruined were the plates granddad used with the microwave oven, he managed to overcook and crack them apart (he was a moron, though).
Granted, microplastic ingestion risks do, indeed, exist with these (eg. if one likes using the knife to its fullest potential), although a bit of temperance goes a long way. That 20-year-old set I have barely has any scratches on it, and that's with dropping them pretty regularly while doing the dishes.
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Now you're just arguing that your personal taste in what is fancy or not is objective
I gave objective reasons why they don't fit the definition fancy, but you just had to latch onto the one that wasn't.
You just keep picking one thing that works as an argument for you while ignoring all the ones that don't.
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I gave objective reasons why they don't fit the definition fancy, but you just had to latch onto the one that wasn't.
You just keep picking one thing that works as an argument for you while ignoring all the ones that don't.
wrote last edited by [email protected]it says not plain it says "ornamental." And while I'm sure there are some people who might use children's bee plates as an ornament, I can't imagine that there is very many.
Personal taste, as you basically say yourself.
But beyond all that fancy also means elaborate, which they're not.
Personal taste. Compared to a plain plate with nothing on it, these are undeniably elaborate.
impressive
Entirely subjective
of particular excellence
This one is the only one where you potentially have a point, since the plates probably are mass produced
decorative
See ornamental.
expensive
Expensive has never, nor will it ever, mean that the product 100% of the time is better.
high quality
They never broke.
EDIT: And even so, the other definitions don't really matter, as which one you'd interpret the girlfriend to mean is entirely subjective. If he understood it as the one I posted, the others don't matter.
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Idk what his gf is on about. These slap and anon is clearly a distinguished gentleman.
Stealing that
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Eh, plastic plates:
- don't shatter when you drop them
- don't chip
- don't screech when cutting things with a knife
Plastic isn't the enemy, single use plastics are.
Plastic is the enemy. Not just single use plastics. But all unnecessary plastics. The micro plastics disrupt food chains. They also get into food. It's not great. They get everywhere with no chance to decay.
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You reflect on the weird nature of your dreams as you have them? I just go with the flow, accepting things as real, even though in reality they make no sense. Which then raises the question: how do I know I am not dreaming? Sure, things appear to make sense here, as opposed to dream nonsense. But if dreams don't seem weird in context, how do I know there isn't a level above, where what we take as logical makes no sense?
Drag can tell drag isn't dreaming because drag knows drag's dreams don't make sense when drag has them.
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and teenagers insisting they're no longer kids. (same fight as "kids table" stuff. To be honest, when I became an adult, the kids table was always more fun anyhow. Dinosaurs are way more interesting topics of conversation than adult-stuff.)
Drag recently had a family gathering and spent a lot of time debating biblical theology with drag's adult relatives. Drag's baby cousin assured us that we're all extremely boring.
All drag can say in response to that is that the Torah says Elohim can take away a promise if it's used as an excuse to sin, so Israel has no right to exist.
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I 100% believe the moment we try to pretend we aren't children anymore is the moment we deny a huge chunk of what makes us human.
Not to mention a HUGE mistake logistically speaking, because it also means that we wouldn't be working with the actual data. We don't lose who we've been, it constantly gets incorporated into who we're becoming. Those kids we used to be are still there, alive and well (and probably sobbing in a corner for a friggin' crumb of honest, carefree enjoyment of, like, anything!) and all we do is to try to bury them deeper and deeper, until we can't hear those sobs anymore. But those sobs just get worse, until they... stop. After a loong, long time, they stop - killed where nobody else could hear it.
And if all of that sounds insane, it's because it is. That's my point.
Not drag's inner child. Drag's inner child is so wild and free that other adults have to pick up the slack of repressing drag. It doesn't work. No matter how many times they say dragons don't exist, drag still gets to go home and play with a dragon.
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Buzz off.
I'm breaking out in hives...
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Did your girlfriend come to her senses, and realize how great those plates are?
Obv its because he chose the plates and not the girlfriend
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it says not plain it says "ornamental." And while I'm sure there are some people who might use children's bee plates as an ornament, I can't imagine that there is very many.
Personal taste, as you basically say yourself.
But beyond all that fancy also means elaborate, which they're not.
Personal taste. Compared to a plain plate with nothing on it, these are undeniably elaborate.
impressive
Entirely subjective
of particular excellence
This one is the only one where you potentially have a point, since the plates probably are mass produced
decorative
See ornamental.
expensive
Expensive has never, nor will it ever, mean that the product 100% of the time is better.
high quality
They never broke.
EDIT: And even so, the other definitions don't really matter, as which one you'd interpret the girlfriend to mean is entirely subjective. If he understood it as the one I posted, the others don't matter.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Here some definitions for you,
Elaborate:
Containing a lot of careful detail or many detailed parts.
Details definitely aren't careful or many.Impressive:
If an object or achievement is impressive, you admire or respect it, usually because it is special, important, or very large.
They're not special, important, or very large by any objective metric.Decorative:
Serving to decorate
especially : purely ornamental
You could use them as a decoration but it's definitely not their purpose, and them saying that they never broke implies that they were using them.Expensive has never, nor will it ever, mean that the product 100% of the time is better.
True, but irrelevant. It's not about being better, it's about being fancy.
(Edit: Whatever fancy actually means, words have lost all meaning at this point of the argument and I'm losing grip on reality)They never broke.
Maybe, but we don't know how often they were used or even how they were used. And while I've never seen these particular plates in person, I've know plenty of plates like them where the printed design will quickly chip of or fade which speaks of poor quality.
Compared to a plain plate with nothing on it, these are undeniably elaborate.
Something being more elaborate than something else doesn't mean that it's something any reasonable person would call elaborate itself. If I scribble on a piece of paper you could say it's more elaborate than an empty page, but would anyone look at some paper with a scribble on it and call it elaborate without a reference point?
Edit: ignore that paper analogy, upon further thought I don't think you can call something that's elaborate elaborate without a plainer reference point to compare it to actually.
I still stand by the first bit about something being more elaborate makes it elaborate itself though.Edit 2 electric boogaloo: Don't take my arguing to heart I'm just doing it to be contrary at this point
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Plastic is the enemy. Not just single use plastics. But all unnecessary plastics. The micro plastics disrupt food chains. They also get into food. It's not great. They get everywhere with no chance to decay.
Sure, microplastics are certainly an issue, but the vast majority of them come from other sources, like clothes and tires. Things like multi-use plastic plates don't even register on the list of sources.
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Dear god it them
The myth, the legend, the plate
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Can it bee?
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Dinosaur... nuts? Never heard of 'em
I'm dyin' to soar these nuts across your face
(I think that works, right? Barely?)
