Anybody here use Asahi Linux?
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I like it, but the microphone doesn't work. They were supposed to make it work last summer, but the work hasn't began for it yet. Without it, I can't do calls to my mom, so I don't use it anymore.
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I used it for a while with an m2 macbook perhaps half a year ago, but ended up getting a PC so I wouldn't have to deal with so much jank.
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unfortunately not all thinkpads are made the same. it seems that, for a while now, lenovo takes a bunch of cheaper laptops and slaps the thinkpad label on them
i personally had a better experience with dell's latitude line, but ymmv
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Apple computers ARE really well put together, maybe no other maker exactly as good. But I’d say the Microsoft Surface line is a similar quality. Razer too though they’re pretty expensive.
Asus zephyrus laptops are pretty great build quality, close to Apple but without the same kind of pricing and markup gouging we get from Apple
Im not an apple hater, they make some great stuff. My point above was just that they don’t have competition in the “I need a Mac” space so their hardware isn’t competitively priced. And their build quality is great, but not every laptop needs to be built like a tank with top of the line components.
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I think people in the Linux community have a predisposition to call Apple products "low quality", but as someone with an M2 Pro MacBook and a Framework 16, the Framework feels like cheap, mushy garbage in comparison. The Framework is still really cool for other reasons, but build quality is not one of them.
The speakers on MacBooks are actually really good (the Framework speakers sound like absolute shit), and the OLED screen + keyboard & trackpad can't be beat. I would run Asahi on it if it supported more than 60Hz on the built-in display and the mic worked. If those two things don't matter to you, you might really enjoy Asahi on a Mac.
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You've heard it several times, now, but once again: Asahi works really well for what it is, but it's definitely a compromised experience. For example, on my M1 Macbook Air I cannot plug in a USB-C dongle and then plug in an external monitor. The driver support just isn't there. I think if I had an Macbook Pro with a built-in HDMI port I would be able to use that... but alas, I do not.
If you want to use macOS and then use Linux on the side now and again in a dual boot setup, sure. If you want to use 100% Linux on your computer... there are better supported options.
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What do you specifically like about macOS in comparison to Linux?
I mean mostly that it works and is easy and intuitive, and has a single dedicated version of every piece of software that's made.
I like Linux as an alternative to Windows but it's a nightmare to figure out how to use.
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He didn't step down from Asahi, just from the Linux kernel maintainers. Another person took over the Linux kernel Maintainer role for Asahi.
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but the work hasn’t began for it yet.
This is completely untrue. The microphone driver is now working in development. Before it can be enabled they need to tweak various userland parameters and configurations that are different between each mac model.
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If you made the mistake of buying an M-series Mac before migrating to Linux, Asahi is a great way to continue using that machine if you're fine with no external displays. Since I only ever use my M1 air on the go, it doesn't bother me.
However, you cannot wipe the existing MacOS install nor stub partitions as they're needed for firmware updates and booting non-mac operating systems. I think I managed to squeeze my macos partition down to something like 40gb, which is a ton of unusable space on my 128GB laptop.
If you're in the market for a new machine, there are better options in terms of affordability and usability, even if you're specifically looking for an ARM device
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I mostly see Asahi Linux as a way to keep these M Macs in use once they’re too old to get official updates and once they become really cheap on the used market.
If on top of this Apple is forced to bring back some repairability/upgradeability, it would be great.
Buying an used computer is the only thing environnementaly friendlier than buying something from a brand like Framework.
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Apple hardware is good, but not priced at the same quality to price ratio because there's no competition. You can get other brands with higher quality at the same price point that better supported by Linux.
I think that was the point there. Not that Apple has bad hardware, but lack of competition and the premium for the product family mean you can get higher specs per dollar with many other manufacturers and you can find hardware that won't require "jailbreaking" or other workarounds or missing drivers to get it working with Linux.