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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • C [email protected]

    The other two tests that the Tesla failed were more realistic. Heavy fog and heavy rain.

    It failed both.

    If your self driving car cannot handle weather, then it's not self driving at all.

    Actual lidar isn't fooled by weather. Shitty optical only cameras are.

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    Agreed and that's a real world scenario that is being tested which has real value.

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    • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

      So, your comment got me thinking... surely, in a big country like the US of A, this mural must actually exist already, right?

      Of course it does. It is an art piece in Columbia, S.C: https://img.atlasobscura.com/90srIbBi-XX-H9u6i_RykKIinRXlpclCHtk-QPSHixk/rt:fit/w:1200/q:80/sm:1/scp:1/ar:1/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdGxh/cy1kZXYuczMuYW1h/em9uYXdzLmNvbS91/cGxvYWRzL3BsYWNl/X2ltYWdlcy85ZTUw/M2ZkZDAxZjVhN2Rm/NmVfOTIyNjQ4NjQ0/OF80YWVhNzFkZjY0/X3ouanBn.webp

      A full article about it: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision

      How would Tesla FSD react to Tunnelvision, I wonder? How would Tesla FSD react to an overturned semi truck with a realistic depiction of a highway on it? JK, Tesla FSD crashes directly into overturned semis even without the image depiction issue.

      I don't think the test is misleading. It's puffed up for entertainment purposes, but in being puffed up, it draws attention to an important drawback of optical-only self-driving cars, which is otherwise a difficult and arcane topic to draw everyday people's attention to.

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      Good find, I must say I'm surprised that's legal, but it's probably more obvious in reality, and it has the sun which is probably also pretty obvious to a human.
      But it might fool the Tesla?

      Regarding the semi video: WTF?
      But I've said for years that Tesla cars aren't safe for roads. And that's not just the FSD, they are inherently unsafe in many really really stupid ways.
      Blinker buttons on the steering wheel. Hidden emergency door handles, emergency breaking for no reason. Distracting screen interface. In Denmark 30% of Tesla 3 fail their first 4 year safety check.
      There have been stats publicized that claim they aren't worse than other cars, when in fact "other cars" were an average of 10 year older. So the newer cars obviously ought to be safer because they should be in better conditions.

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        My vacuum would pass that test... why is a Tesla worse at this?

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        In short because Elon (wrongly) believes you only need cameras, he made the claim people also drive with just 2 eyes.

        The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

        Waymo (Googles self driving side hussle) was build on lidar and other sensors and has been using robot taxis for many years now in geofenced specific areas.

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        • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

          New stuff to add to the car kit bag for the 21st century

          1. poster board to block usonic weapons
          2. black paint, white paint, roller, brush to paint tunnels on walls
          3. orange cones to pen in self driving cars
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          And a "Yikes!" sign 🤣

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            In short because Elon (wrongly) believes you only need cameras, he made the claim people also drive with just 2 eyes.

            The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

            Waymo (Googles self driving side hussle) was build on lidar and other sensors and has been using robot taxis for many years now in geofenced specific areas.

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            The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

            Lmao would it be illegal to put a stop sign on the back of your car?

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            • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

              Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

              Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

              The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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              Turns out having radar is rather important..

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                Huh, now I’m mildly interested in the differences in traffic laws in China vs US vs Europe that lead to Teslas getting more tickets in China than elsewhere.

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                I found this article. My takeaways were:

                1. No driving in bus lanes during certain times of day.
                2. No using the shoulder as a turn lane.
                3. No using a bike lane as a turn lane.
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                • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                  Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                  Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                  The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                  Insurance fraud is going to bankrupt Tesla robotaxis faster than an incompetent CEO ever could.

                  There will be too many ways to defeat the cameras and not having LiDAR unlike the rest of the industry may prove to be found to be a failure of duty of care.

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                    The link in a comment that wasn't for me? Like I update every 10 minutes to read all the comments??
                    Get real will you.

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                    The link you replied to.

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                    • magnus919@lemmy.brandyapple.comM [email protected]

                      I remember Elon foolishly saying his cars don’t need radar or lidar. Even software-disabling radar in cars that already had the hardware.

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                      Not even just his cars, he thinks the MILITARY, doesn't need radar and can just use cameras to spot and track stealth fighters.

                      He's a fucking lunatic.

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                        Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                        Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                        The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                        Things that happen when you rely exclusively on optical sensors, i.e. cameras. But that's just cheaper, more money for Nazi Elon.

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                          Stats made over decades back in 50-70's

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                          So... out of date stats about advertising?

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                          • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                            meanwhile our subaru has lidar for adaptive cruise control and emergency braking

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                            I didn’t realize EyeSight had different versions, on the Solterra it looks like it is indeed LIDAR.

                            My Crosstrek has the older dual camera setup for depth perception, it would not be fooled by a picture of a road on a wall… I’m surprised the Teslas are.

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                              The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

                              Lmao would it be illegal to put a stop sign on the back of your car?

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                              I was thinking the same thing. What would happen if you popped one out of the back of your car while driving in front of a self driving car on the freeway?

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                              • elephantium@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                I found this article. My takeaways were:

                                1. No driving in bus lanes during certain times of day.
                                2. No using the shoulder as a turn lane.
                                3. No using a bike lane as a turn lane.
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                                Wow

                                (Basedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbased)

                                This post brought to you by American car centrism

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                                • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                                  Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                                  Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                                  The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                                  This would be hilarious if it weren't for shitty cars causing deaths.

                                  That said, I always wondered why we don't find a system like RFID that could penetrate concrete and asphalt, and plant passive receivers in roads? We re-pave roads so damn often in this country (the U.S.) it seems like we could've knocked it out in the past couple of decades, minus our most rural areas.

                                  I know RFID itself isn't strong enough, but I imagine that would've been an easier problem than figuring our complete self driving. Not to mention making GPS a secondary system for U.S. road travel in most cases.

                                  Maybe it's just a dumb shower thought?

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                                    This would be hilarious if it weren't for shitty cars causing deaths.

                                    That said, I always wondered why we don't find a system like RFID that could penetrate concrete and asphalt, and plant passive receivers in roads? We re-pave roads so damn often in this country (the U.S.) it seems like we could've knocked it out in the past couple of decades, minus our most rural areas.

                                    I know RFID itself isn't strong enough, but I imagine that would've been an easier problem than figuring our complete self driving. Not to mention making GPS a secondary system for U.S. road travel in most cases.

                                    Maybe it's just a dumb shower thought?

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                                    I have another idea: echolocation and laser measurement.

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                                      I have another idea: echolocation and laser measurement.

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                                      I don't know the value of echolocation in this case, as I'm generally ignorant here, but it's straight wild to me that they went purely on visuals.

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                                        Wow

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                                        This post brought to you by American car centrism

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                                        Not sure what "American car centrism" has to do with Chinese traffic regulations tbh

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          That's almost as bad as Sidewinder missiles locking onto the sun.

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                                          To be fair, it is really hot...

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