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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • G [email protected]

    I seem to recall that fElon prevented the self driving team from utilizing LIDAR for any part of the system, instead demanding that everything run off of optical input. Does anyone else remember the same?

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    Is that just to cover his ass cuz he was promising backwards-compatible FSD for models that don’t have LIDAR?

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      They're not reading speed limit signs; they'll follow the speed limit noted on the reference maps, like what you see in the app on your phone.

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      Yikes, there’s a 25 around here that shows up as a 55 in Google Maps.

      Also a 55 that goes down to I think 35 for just a moment when it joins up with a side road. I wonder what a Tesla would do if it was following that data.

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      • I [email protected]

        I believe he claimed that since humans use their vision to drive that computer vision was more than enough.

        I don’t know about you, but I also rely on sounds & feel when I drive. I also know that the human eye has evolved to detect motion, filter out extraneous information, and send just the important bits to the brain so that it doesn’t get overloaded with everything the eye sees. Computer vision is the exact opposite from that, having to process every bit of every image the camera sees.

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        I don’t know about you, but I also rely on sounds & feel when I drive.

        Of course. When I feel myself driving into a wall, I stop immediately.

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          bugs meme

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          I wish all MAGAs a very DEI

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            Elon removed the radar. Tesla cars never had lidar. What an idiot Musk.

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            He did say lidar was "useless" though.

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              This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

              The Video:

              That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

              The Clickbait

              I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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              You realize Mark Robers target audience is like 8 years old, right? He also references looney tunes and wile e coyote a couple dozen times, including in this thumbnail you're losing your mind over. The thumbnail fits the theme very well if you ask me.

              This video isn't a rigorous scientific test. This is a children's video designed to get them interested in the scientific method. Get over yourself.

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                algorithm-driven platform

                And what is this "algorithm" based on? Actual user behavior. So the way to correct an algorithm is to change actual user behavior, no?

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                Lemme know when they release an OTA for our parietal lobes.

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                • G [email protected]

                  You realize Mark Robers target audience is like 8 years old, right? He also references looney tunes and wile e coyote a couple dozen times, including in this thumbnail you're losing your mind over. The thumbnail fits the theme very well if you ask me.

                  This video isn't a rigorous scientific test. This is a children's video designed to get them interested in the scientific method. Get over yourself.

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                  Why would children be interested in car safety?

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                  • E [email protected]

                    The link is right there, you could've just clicked it instead of taking the time to write this question?!

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                    OK I see it now, a bunch of icons I usually glance over, because such "icon lines" are generally for a bunch of social media crap I don't use.
                    Apparently it's proprietary crap, so no thanks anyway.

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                    • asap@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                      Yes, but you could have just clicked the link to find that out

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                      The link in a comment that wasn't for me? Like I update every 10 minutes to read all the comments??
                      Get real will you.

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                        I agree that this just isn't a realistic problem, and that there are way more problems with Tesla's that are much more realistic.

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                        Tell that to the guy who lost his head when his Tesla thought a reflective semi truck was the sky

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Elon removed the radar. Tesla cars never had lidar. What an idiot Musk.

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                          It was removed because it was giving false positives. They should have upgraded it with lidar but decided to just remove it.

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                            I disagree with this being a good test. Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it? This would trick many human drivers. Self driving cars fail in many realistic situations that are a lot more concerning. This is just clickbait.

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                            I actually agree, it's not really a good test. That wall is very realistic. It's just that people get pissed about negativity.

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                              I don’t see a problem with thumbnails that accurately portray the contents of the video, since only a small number of characters can fit in the title and a screenshot of one frame from the video doesn’t say much, so it can be difficult to get a sense for the video at a glance otherwise. I do get really annoyed with thumbnails that are deceptive in any way. If the thumbnail seems like it might be deceptive, I’ll usually read the comments before watching the video, or quickly scroll through it to see if it’s BS or not. Sometimes, the thumbnail advertises something that happens at the end of a 20 minute video that could’ve been 30s, in which case, I’ll scroll usually through to the end instead of watching the whole thing. If it weren’t for the thumbnail, though, I might not have watched it all.

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                                Lemme know when they release an OTA for our parietal lobes.

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                                That sounds horrifying. 🙂

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                                • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comG [email protected]

                                  Well, this is a forum, not an out-loud discussion, so those are 2 completely different scenarios

                                  They were also already given the link, so I guess:

                                  Imagine being in the middle of a friendly conversation where someone asks for something, you give it to them, and then they proceed to ask questions about it that could be answered by looking at the thing you gave them

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                                  I give you a green round ball. You then proceed to ask me the colour and shape of the ball.

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                                  • I [email protected]

                                    I believe he claimed that since humans use their vision to drive that computer vision was more than enough.

                                    I don’t know about you, but I also rely on sounds & feel when I drive. I also know that the human eye has evolved to detect motion, filter out extraneous information, and send just the important bits to the brain so that it doesn’t get overloaded with everything the eye sees. Computer vision is the exact opposite from that, having to process every bit of every image the camera sees.

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                                    since humans use their vision to drive that computer vision was more than enough

                                    Surprised he didn't swap out the wheels with legs while he was at it

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                                    • A [email protected]

                                      At this point everyone should know that YouTube thumbnails have no requirement for accuracy. It's more like an album cover.

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                                      I know, but if they are about anything serious like tests, I think it's a fair assumption that the thumbnail represent it reasonably.
                                      If it's misleading, I don't want their vomit. They can just fuck right off. We already have more than enough misinformation. I simply don't want to waste my time on bullshit.

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                                        Why would children be interested in car safety?

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                                        Oh wow, you really didn't realize? Yeah man this is a youtube channel for getting kids interested in science and technology, like the technology surrounding self driving cars and lidar. Did you see the part where he introduced the technology by taking it to Disney world?

                                        Here's a random video from crunchlabs, the company he created and advertises on ALL of his videos. This video shows his fan base enjoying what they got from crunchlabs.

                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrY-8_hJLJo

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                                          Why would children be interested in car safety?

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                                          Why would children be interested in anything?

                                          Have you never seen educational content before that wraps up potentially boring teachings in an exciting narrative?

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