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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • Z [email protected]

    You haven't seen what Teslas are in the news for lately?

    It's not that crazy someone would put up a fake wall on some backroad to catch out inattentive Tesla drivers. Doesn't even need to be nearly as big and elaborate as this one. Any painted object would accomplish the same.

    But the point of the video is that optical cameras are easily deceived, and Elon is lying to his customers that LiDAR is overrated and not necessary.

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    Doesn't address the point that humans would be equally deceived by this wall if they don't pay 100% attention.

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      YouTubers - especially large channels like this - constantly A/B test with different thumbnails and stick with whatever one drives the most traffic (no pun intended) to the video.

      You might not like it, but it’s unfortunately the reality of operating a content creation business on an algorithm-driven platform.

      There are plenty of channels I follow that make fantastic videos, but sometimes you have to tolerate the shitty thumbnails because that’s just the reality of the system they’re operating within.

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      Yeah, that is just how youtube works. You as an individual can say you don't like annoying thumbnails and titles, but they 100% work. And channels that don't use them are just not getting as many viewers.

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      • B [email protected]

        This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

        The Video:

        That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

        The Clickbait

        I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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        Still astounded people use anything other than the subscription section on YouTube.

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          Blame the youtube algorithm and Mr Beast, not all the other youtubers caught up in the tidal wave.

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          Yeah they do it because it works. I've seen several who make otherwise good content talk about it in their videos and make comments about how stupid it is bit they basically have to to be competitive.

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            Doesn't address the point that humans would be equally deceived by this wall if they don't pay 100% attention.

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            I'd hit that

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            • G [email protected]

              I seem to recall that fElon prevented the self driving team from utilizing LIDAR for any part of the system, instead demanding that everything run off of optical input. Does anyone else remember the same?

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              Is that just to cover his ass cuz he was promising backwards-compatible FSD for models that don’t have LIDAR?

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              • S [email protected]

                They're not reading speed limit signs; they'll follow the speed limit noted on the reference maps, like what you see in the app on your phone.

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                Yikes, there’s a 25 around here that shows up as a 55 in Google Maps.

                Also a 55 that goes down to I think 35 for just a moment when it joins up with a side road. I wonder what a Tesla would do if it was following that data.

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                  I believe he claimed that since humans use their vision to drive that computer vision was more than enough.

                  I don’t know about you, but I also rely on sounds & feel when I drive. I also know that the human eye has evolved to detect motion, filter out extraneous information, and send just the important bits to the brain so that it doesn’t get overloaded with everything the eye sees. Computer vision is the exact opposite from that, having to process every bit of every image the camera sees.

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                  I don’t know about you, but I also rely on sounds & feel when I drive.

                  Of course. When I feel myself driving into a wall, I stop immediately.

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                    bugs meme

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                    I wish all MAGAs a very DEI

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                      Elon removed the radar. Tesla cars never had lidar. What an idiot Musk.

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                      He did say lidar was "useless" though.

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                        This is a very good test, and the car should have past. That said though, I hate the click bait format where they show a stupidly obvious cartoonish wall, when the real wall is way more convincing.

                        The Video:

                        That sort of clickbait is 100% sure to get a "do not recommend channel" from me, I'm so sick of it. And it's sad when the video has such a good point.

                        The Clickbait

                        I can see it's kind of funny, but it's misleading.

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                        You realize Mark Robers target audience is like 8 years old, right? He also references looney tunes and wile e coyote a couple dozen times, including in this thumbnail you're losing your mind over. The thumbnail fits the theme very well if you ask me.

                        This video isn't a rigorous scientific test. This is a children's video designed to get them interested in the scientific method. Get over yourself.

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                          algorithm-driven platform

                          And what is this "algorithm" based on? Actual user behavior. So the way to correct an algorithm is to change actual user behavior, no?

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                          Lemme know when they release an OTA for our parietal lobes.

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                            You realize Mark Robers target audience is like 8 years old, right? He also references looney tunes and wile e coyote a couple dozen times, including in this thumbnail you're losing your mind over. The thumbnail fits the theme very well if you ask me.

                            This video isn't a rigorous scientific test. This is a children's video designed to get them interested in the scientific method. Get over yourself.

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                            Why would children be interested in car safety?

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                            • E [email protected]

                              The link is right there, you could've just clicked it instead of taking the time to write this question?!

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                              OK I see it now, a bunch of icons I usually glance over, because such "icon lines" are generally for a bunch of social media crap I don't use.
                              Apparently it's proprietary crap, so no thanks anyway.

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                              • asap@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                Yes, but you could have just clicked the link to find that out

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                                The link in a comment that wasn't for me? Like I update every 10 minutes to read all the comments??
                                Get real will you.

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  I agree that this just isn't a realistic problem, and that there are way more problems with Tesla's that are much more realistic.

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                                  Tell that to the guy who lost his head when his Tesla thought a reflective semi truck was the sky

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                                    Elon removed the radar. Tesla cars never had lidar. What an idiot Musk.

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                                    It was removed because it was giving false positives. They should have upgraded it with lidar but decided to just remove it.

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                                      I disagree with this being a good test. Where on earth would you find a wall on a road with a fotorealistic continuation of the road printed on it? This would trick many human drivers. Self driving cars fail in many realistic situations that are a lot more concerning. This is just clickbait.

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                                      I actually agree, it's not really a good test. That wall is very realistic. It's just that people get pissed about negativity.

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                                        I don’t see a problem with thumbnails that accurately portray the contents of the video, since only a small number of characters can fit in the title and a screenshot of one frame from the video doesn’t say much, so it can be difficult to get a sense for the video at a glance otherwise. I do get really annoyed with thumbnails that are deceptive in any way. If the thumbnail seems like it might be deceptive, I’ll usually read the comments before watching the video, or quickly scroll through it to see if it’s BS or not. Sometimes, the thumbnail advertises something that happens at the end of a 20 minute video that could’ve been 30s, in which case, I’ll scroll usually through to the end instead of watching the whole thing. If it weren’t for the thumbnail, though, I might not have watched it all.

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                                          Lemme know when they release an OTA for our parietal lobes.

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                                          That sounds horrifying. 🙂

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