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Self-Driving Tesla Crashes into Wall Painted to Look Like a Road… Just Months Before Planned Robotaxi Launch

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  • I [email protected]

    That's almost as bad as Sidewinder missiles locking onto the sun.

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    To be fair, it is really hot...

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    • elephantium@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

      Not sure what "American car centrism" has to do with Chinese traffic regulations tbh

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      I think their regs, while seemingly very basic rules of the road, are based because I live in the US and we have bike lanes here that just whole ass turn into turn lanes with almost no warning. I wish we could get basic decency for everyone on the road, too.

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      • jeffool@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

        I don't know the value of echolocation in this case, as I'm generally ignorant here, but it's straight wild to me that they went purely on visuals.

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        Tesla used to also have radar (and maybe lidar?) but they removed it as a cost cutting measure. If you ever see older videos of a Tesla slowing down or stopping due to a potential collision a few cars ahead, that's from before they switched to only relying on cameras. The collision avoidance was significantly better back then.

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        • ? Guest

          I have never seen a mural on a road depicting a road that is identical to the road that I am driving on. Hope that helps.

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          Maybe someone should do a follow up experiment to see how different the "mural" would have to be for the car to recognise it. A human would obviously not fall for something like an artistic picture of a fantasy land, but would a Tesla?

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          • ? Guest

            I have never seen a mural on a road depicting a road that is identical to the road that I am driving on. Hope that helps.

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            Someone else had an interesting take elsewhere on the thread, and that got me looking.

            Here is that mural you're looking for, it's in South Carolina, took me like 60 seconds of searching to find one so I am sure there are others: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision

            It's a mural that looks like a tunnel but is actually a mural.

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            • V [email protected]

              Except GPUs 😥

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              I just abandoned and got myself an RX 6400 (my kids stole my PCs). Works well for Commandos and C&C 😅

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              • 9 [email protected]

                Was just thinking this

                A single LiDAR sensor prevents this kind of issue

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                Even RADAR prevents this and the cars had RADAR! They started disabling RADAR for the older cars since the new ones don’t even have the hardware installed.

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                • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                  Someone else had an interesting take elsewhere on the thread, and that got me looking.

                  Here is that mural you're looking for, it's in South Carolina, took me like 60 seconds of searching to find one so I am sure there are others: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tunnelvision

                  It's a mural that looks like a tunnel but is actually a mural.

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                  Ha well done.

                  Not sure people will be using self drive around a car park but if that is the plan then I guess you Americans will have to white wash that kind of thing.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    I have another idea: echolocation and laser measurement.

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                    Echolocation is specifically audio based.
                    Lidar is a similar technique, but much more accurate and precise.
                    Project a grid of laser beam, read when the laser bounces back, you know the distance to that part of the grid.

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                    • gmtom@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                      Not even just his cars, he thinks the MILITARY, doesn't need radar and can just use cameras to spot and track stealth fighters.

                      He's a fucking lunatic.

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                      As an augmentation, the ability to spot and track objects visually would be amazing.
                      But then planes just have to fly above 10k ft, and pretty much guaranteed cloud cover.

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                      • R [email protected]

                        Things that happen when you rely exclusively on optical sensors, i.e. cameras. But that's just cheaper, more money for Nazi Elon.

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                        Are we reeeeally sure optical sensors with fast image recognition software are cheaper than LiDAR?

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                        • C [email protected]

                          I think their regs, while seemingly very basic rules of the road, are based because I live in the US and we have bike lanes here that just whole ass turn into turn lanes with almost no warning. I wish we could get basic decency for everyone on the road, too.

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                          Ah, gotcha, yeah, that makes sense.

                          My own city has pretty good bike lane coverage, but it's similar -- cars have to cross over the bike lane to get into the turn lane.

                          Basic decency...gah. Yeah, I wish. 😞

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                          • kayleadfoot@fedia.ioK [email protected]

                            Mark Rober just set up one of the most interesting self-driving tests of 2025, and he did it by imitating Looney Tunes. The former NASA engineer and current YouTube mad scientist recreated the classic gag where Wile E. Coyote paints a tunnel onto a wall to fool the Road Runner.

                            Only this time, the test subject wasn’t a cartoon bird… it was a self-driving Tesla Model Y.

                            The result? A full-speed, 40 MPH impact straight into the wall. Watch the video and tell us what you think!

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                            I remember elon saying something along the lines of his camera system being just as good and they thusly don't need to employ things like LIDAR.

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                            • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                              Are we reeeeally sure optical sensors with fast image recognition software are cheaper than LiDAR?

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                              The hardware is, which is the important part at scale: even if the code is 10x more expensive when you sell millions of the car it becomes pennies/car

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                              • N [email protected]

                                Make Elon test ride the first Tesla robotaxi and there's a chance the funniest thing of all time will happen.

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                                TaxiGate? I just hope he takes along four or five billionaire friends with him.

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                                • Y [email protected]

                                  The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

                                  Lmao would it be illegal to put a stop sign on the back of your car?

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                                  Some school buses have a sticker / sign on the back that says "I stop for railroad crossings" and can have a stop sign on said sticker.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    In short because Elon (wrongly) believes you only need cameras, he made the claim people also drive with just 2 eyes.

                                    The thing is, we recognize a truck with stickers of a stopsign, while AI vision gets confused.

                                    Waymo (Googles self driving side hussle) was build on lidar and other sensors and has been using robot taxis for many years now in geofenced specific areas.

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                                    The funny thing is, apparently our depth perception, a product of our two eyes, is a feature beyond the reach of tesla. And it would have allowed to to complete this test.

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                                    • jeffool@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                                      This would be hilarious if it weren't for shitty cars causing deaths.

                                      That said, I always wondered why we don't find a system like RFID that could penetrate concrete and asphalt, and plant passive receivers in roads? We re-pave roads so damn often in this country (the U.S.) it seems like we could've knocked it out in the past couple of decades, minus our most rural areas.

                                      I know RFID itself isn't strong enough, but I imagine that would've been an easier problem than figuring our complete self driving. Not to mention making GPS a secondary system for U.S. road travel in most cases.

                                      Maybe it's just a dumb shower thought?

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                                      What you're describing is just a higher level of autonomy. If I remember correctly, you're describing level 3 whereas Tesla's are level 2. I believe VW made a level 3 proof of concept mini bus back around 2020 but the legislation doesn't allow for the sensors in the road yet because... Oh that's right. A level 2 car manufacturer owns like half the world right now which means nobody is allowed to innovate or do better than him. Huh, that sucks.

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                                        Tell that to the guy who lost his head when his Tesla thought a reflective semi truck was the sky

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                                        Well that seems like a realistic problem. Not picture of tunnel

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                                          Well that seems like a realistic problem. Not picture of tunnel

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                                          It’s the same issue, the car not being able to detect a solid object in front of it because of an optical illusion

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