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Greta Thunberg departs Israel on flight to Paris after detention aboard aid ship

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  • somethingburger@jlai.luS [email protected]

    The others refused to be sent back to France, as they would have to agree to be permanently banned from Israel.

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    They refuse to sign a document saying that they enteres israel legally which make it look like israel kidnapping was legal and legitimate

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    • L [email protected]

      To be fair, they specified “western world”. If you look at the map of countries that recognize Palestine, it’s pretty glaring that a good chunk of Europe, Canada/US, and Australia/NZ don’t officially recognize it.

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      Why does it even matter if it's the west or other countries. Foes western countries have more legitimacy?

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      • H [email protected]

        Uncommonly fast for Israel.

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        They did it for PR. The other who refused to sign paper that will make them look like they entered israel legally are still abducted in jail

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        • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

          Consider this: You might be misinformed about the whole situation.

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          that would require thinking, how dare you insult his beliefs

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          • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

            Humanitarian aid is getting in through land borders into Gaza.

            Gaza doesn’t have a port suitable for delivering large amounts of goods in the first place. Aid delivery has to go through the proper channels.

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            International law doesn't put up any of those restrictions. As an illegal occupying force Israel is not allowed to dictate what the "proper" channels are.

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            • N [email protected]

              One person on board with her is a European Union member of parliament from France. That provides a lot more protection than Greta's reputation can.

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              Israel shot at a group of European diplomats two weeks ago and Europe did not care.

              Greta has way more clout than the European Parliament.

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              • J [email protected]

                It's actually gotten worse. The management of CNN changed recentlyish and has been pushing CNN more to the right. I think it was to increase viewership, but ultimately just means the quality (not that it was very high to begin with) has dropped.

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                Watching their recent coverage of LA and NY I was kinda astounded by the slant on it.

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                • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                  Yes, that’s how blockades work. https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/8684/43_101YaleLJ893_1991_1992_.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

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                  Is there something specific in there you wanted to reference?

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                  • I [email protected]

                    Israel shot at a group of European diplomats two weeks ago and Europe did not care.

                    Greta has way more clout than the European Parliament.

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                    I listen to the news almost every day and missed that. I guess it shows how bad things are that it didn't make the news...

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                    • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                      Can you please elaborate on that connection from your perspective. I imagine there must be some context I am overlooking.

                      Willful ignorance of atrocities does not have any chance of stopping or slowing them.
                      Source: Russian Gulags, North Korea, US native women murders/trafficking, Auschwitz.

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                      All the shouting and "notoriety" just makes it worse. Turns it into a spectacle instead of actually fixing anything. Sometimes, less outside noise is exactly what's needed for people to sort their own mess out. Wayne Dyer said, "Conflict cannot survive without your participation."

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                        She was kidnapped then released while other are still in jail for doing nothing illegal

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                        Good. They're interfering in things they hardly understand.

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                        • N [email protected]

                          I listen to the news almost every day and missed that. I guess it shows how bad things are that it didn't make the news...

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                          Because no one died, I don’t think anyone was hit either

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                          • N [email protected]

                            Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?

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                            The last one was attacked by drones. They was a chance. Great that it didn't happen

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Nah. That’s when people care. They’ll put her in a golden prison and use her to look good after they free her.

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                              One of the activist is a journalist who said thst they didn't allow her to sleep. Rima hassan was threaatned to smash her face.

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                              • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                She intended to enter territorial waters and breach the blockade. That’s intention to enter.

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                                Yeah obviously they were there to enter they said it over and over… how else would aid get in if actually getting in wasn’t the plan? Even if they weren’t there to enter, for some reason, the fact that they said they were going to enter so many times would be considered credible

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                                  Raising awerness . Many protests was organized after that

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                                  I guess some people genuinely don’t understand activism and collectivism

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    Good. They're interfering in things they hardly understand.

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                                    They understand everything about israel 57 years of occupation

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                                      They understand everything about israel 57 years of occupation

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                                      Ha, dont believe that for a minute.

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        All the shouting and "notoriety" just makes it worse. Turns it into a spectacle instead of actually fixing anything. Sometimes, less outside noise is exactly what's needed for people to sort their own mess out. Wayne Dyer said, "Conflict cannot survive without your participation."

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                                        Ahh yes, because that solves the bystander effect which is why Kitty Genovese did not die from being stabbed in 1964. Also why the Uvalde police are heros for not participating in that school shooting. /s

                                        You still haven't explained any of your reasoning, so I will assume it is in bad faith.

                                        Finally, your quote is about interpersonal conflict, not violence and murder. Mr. Dyer was a therapist.

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                                        • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                                          Ahh yes, because that solves the bystander effect which is why Kitty Genovese did not die from being stabbed in 1964. Also why the Uvalde police are heros for not participating in that school shooting. /s

                                          You still haven't explained any of your reasoning, so I will assume it is in bad faith.

                                          Finally, your quote is about interpersonal conflict, not violence and murder. Mr. Dyer was a therapist.

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                                          You saying "In bad faith" = i cant meaningfully disagree with you

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