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Microsoft Study Finds Relying on AI Kills Your Critical Thinking Skills

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  • R [email protected]

    I don't put effort in a 30 line question with a ton of specific stuff. I just ask it a question.

    What is the heaviest Pokemon?

    That's it. And then it goes and finds a Pokemon that isn't the heaviest now, and at no point in the series was it ever the heaviest.

    If I need multiple lines and clarification and stuff, that makes it worse than just finding it myself.

    Btw heaviest Pokemon is a many way tie as the weights don't go over 999.9kg.

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    What is the heaviest pokemon according to the pokedex? Did you try that, its not time consuming. Celesteela according to chatgpt Idk if thats right Idk pokemon

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      I don't put effort in a 30 line question with a ton of specific stuff. I just ask it a question.

      What is the heaviest Pokemon?

      That's it. And then it goes and finds a Pokemon that isn't the heaviest now, and at no point in the series was it ever the heaviest.

      If I need multiple lines and clarification and stuff, that makes it worse than just finding it myself.

      Btw heaviest Pokemon is a many way tie as the weights don't go over 999.9kg.

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      #191

      Asking it the way you asked opens the way for opinions from internet comments everywhere, and its not necesarily wrong since itd be subjective

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      • R [email protected]

        I don't put effort in a 30 line question with a ton of specific stuff. I just ask it a question.

        What is the heaviest Pokemon?

        That's it. And then it goes and finds a Pokemon that isn't the heaviest now, and at no point in the series was it ever the heaviest.

        If I need multiple lines and clarification and stuff, that makes it worse than just finding it myself.

        Btw heaviest Pokemon is a many way tie as the weights don't go over 999.9kg.

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        Like the way you asked it is conversational, so it responded like any random person would, but if you ask for it to base it on something real itll check against that

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        • R [email protected]

          I don't put effort in a 30 line question with a ton of specific stuff. I just ask it a question.

          What is the heaviest Pokemon?

          That's it. And then it goes and finds a Pokemon that isn't the heaviest now, and at no point in the series was it ever the heaviest.

          If I need multiple lines and clarification and stuff, that makes it worse than just finding it myself.

          Btw heaviest Pokemon is a many way tie as the weights don't go over 999.9kg.

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          The heaviest Pokémon according to the Pokédex is Celesteela, which weighs 2204.4 lbs (999.9 kg). It’s an Ultra Beast introduced in Pokémon Sun & Moon and resembles a massive rocket.

          Interestingly, the Pokédex caps weights at 999.9 kg, so Celesteela might not even be its true maximum weight!

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          • R [email protected]

            I just asked it what the heaviest Pokemon was, and it said wailord. I dont care about what it uses as a source as long as it's right.

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            What is the heaviest pokemon according to the pokedex?
            The heaviest Pokémon according to the Pokédex is Celesteela, which weighs 2204.4 lbs (999.9 kg). It’s an Ultra Beast introduced in Pokémon Sun & Moon and resembles a massive rocket.

            Interestingly, the Pokédex caps weights at 999.9 kg, so Celesteela might not even be its true maximum weight!

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              Vs text books? What's the difference?

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              #195

              The variety of available text books, reviewed for use by educators vs autocratic loving tech bros pushing black box solutions to the masses.

              Just off thebtopnofnmy head.

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                #196

                I've only used it to write cover letters for me. I tried to also use it to write some code but it would just cycle through the same 5 wrong solutions it could think of, telling me "I've fixed the problem now"

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                  The variety of available text books, reviewed for use by educators vs autocratic loving tech bros pushing black box solutions to the masses.

                  Just off thebtopnofnmy head.

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                  Tech Bros aren't really reviewing it individually.

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                    What is the heaviest pokemon according to the pokedex? Did you try that, its not time consuming. Celesteela according to chatgpt Idk if thats right Idk pokemon

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                    Because that's double the sentence to type for a question. It's on my search thing that is meant to be for facts. I type the minimum sentence and the normal search works perfectly fine as it always has.

                    Celesteela is tied first with cosmoem apparently. Searching for a list of heaviest Pokemon (typed heaviest Pokemon list) got gpt bing to respond with a list of Pokemon that are not the heaviest. Was looking for the actual list on a site, which the top link was but the AI ignored the top results of the search and spit out exclusively wrong answers.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      Asking it the way you asked opens the way for opinions from internet comments everywhere, and its not necesarily wrong since itd be subjective

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                      Asking what the heaviest anything is isn't subjective at all? Like, not even a tiny bit.

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                        What is the heaviest pokemon according to the pokedex?
                        The heaviest Pokémon according to the Pokédex is Celesteela, which weighs 2204.4 lbs (999.9 kg). It’s an Ultra Beast introduced in Pokémon Sun & Moon and resembles a massive rocket.

                        Interestingly, the Pokédex caps weights at 999.9 kg, so Celesteela might not even be its true maximum weight!

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                        It's still wrong and it even has the information in its own chat to know it is wrong. It's literally contradicting itself.

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                        • J [email protected]

                          It's such a double edged sword though, Google is a good example, I became a netizen at a very young age and learned how to properly search for information over time.

                          Unfortunately the vast majority of the population over the last two decades have not put in that effort, and it shows lol.

                          Fundamentally, I do not believe in arbitrarily deciding who can and can not have access to information though.

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                          I completely agree - I personally love that there’s so many Open Source AI tools out there.

                          The scary part is (similar to what we experienced with DeepSeek’s web interface) that its extremely easy for these corporations to manipulate, or censor information.

                          I should have clarified my concern - I believe we need to revisit critical thinking as a society (whole other topic) and especially so when it comes to tools like this.

                          Ensuring everyone using it, is aware of what it does, its flaws, how to process its output, and its potential for abuse. Similar to internet safety training for kids in the mid-2000s.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            It's still wrong and it even has the information in its own chat to know it is wrong. It's literally contradicting itself.

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                            ai does that doesnt make it less useful for factual information lol, you literally yourself said that its a question with no answer that is up to debate

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                            • R [email protected]

                              It's still wrong and it even has the information in its own chat to know it is wrong. It's literally contradicting itself.

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                              Use a tool wrong and its useless, use it correctly and save some time, or complain that it isnt perfect and cant do everything for you, idc either way, I used it, worked for me, I got good grades, graduated with my degree and still use ai when I need it time to time, never been an issue, if you expect it to be your guide to fiction, good luck

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Asking what the heaviest anything is isn't subjective at all? Like, not even a tiny bit.

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                                When it comes to pokemon it is, they can weigh in concepts

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Asking what the heaviest anything is isn't subjective at all? Like, not even a tiny bit.

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                                  Ais cooked it cant even figure out what the heaviest pokemon is, is there even a reliable factual source on that on the internet its not gonna yell you no or accept that there is no answe, it cant think itll give you an answer no matter what, thats how ai hallucination works, use the tool correctly for the correct things and it works fine, use it for pointless stuff and itll be pointless

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    ai does that doesnt make it less useful for factual information lol, you literally yourself said that its a question with no answer that is up to debate

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                                    It has an answer that isn't up for debate. It's celesteela and cosmoem. Both of them. They weigh the same.

                                    Saying one weighs more is just wrong.

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                                      Ais cooked it cant even figure out what the heaviest pokemon is, is there even a reliable factual source on that on the internet its not gonna yell you no or accept that there is no answe, it cant think itll give you an answer no matter what, thats how ai hallucination works, use the tool correctly for the correct things and it works fine, use it for pointless stuff and itll be pointless

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                                      The top link of the search was a bulbapedia list of every Pokemon ordered by weight. It's not like it couldn't have gotten it. It's a static list, the old answers won't change.

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                                        I find this very offensive, wait until my chatgpt hears about this! It will have a witty comeback for you just you watch!

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                                        • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                          I'd rather learn from slightly unreliable teachers than teachers who belittle me for asking questions.

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                                          No, obviously not. You don't actually learn if you get misinformation, it's actually the opposite of learning.
                                          But thankfully you don't have to chose between those two options.

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