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inline code with back ticks
Have you noticed that there are now three ways to enter block-formatted, monospace text?
Yep. "Code Snippets" recently stopped working for me (the overlay doesn't open anymore), so I only have the two remaining ways. I can still do code blocks using three backticks, but inline code I can only do using the keyboard shortcut.
How they managed to fuck things up so badly is beyond me, and how they managed to keep them fucked up for so long is even further beyond.
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I've never understood the hatred for Teams. I don't particularly like Slack, and Teams (from my limited experience using it) doesn't seem that much worse.
Do you really use Teams? If you do, you should not be able to say that
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Confluence is implied as being part of the lower parts of the pyramid yeah?
Confluence, the place where you do a bunch of documentation and then later forget you wrote it or can't find it anymore and have to rewrite it all in a separate Confluence folder only to repeat it all later?
My team at work has several different team docs folders ranging from severely outdated to new but soon to be outdated
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They are now finally putting some work in to improve it. I don’t remember much what I used to hate particularly, it was mostly UI related, bugs or the bad Mac implementation.
The new combined view with chats and teams is much better than the split sections.
It took them until just recently to have a basic code block format like everyone else, instead of this annoying editor-in-editor mess they had before (and still kept for some reason).
It used to be very buggy like you had to hunt down the source of some notification to mark it as read. It still doesn’t 100% sync with Outlook. If an event is cancelled and I click delete in Outlook, I also have to go to Teams and „read“ this update. You can set group events in Teams but they somehow don’t end up in Outlook.
What I really like are the clay-like emojis designs.
the emojis would be fine, if they used standard naming schemes like everyone else does...but for some ungodly reason they don't adhere to standard nomenclature, so good fuckin luck finding the one you're looking for!
also: WHY is the shortcut for emojis a fucking parenthesis??? why isn't it a colon like in damn near every other app???
this is the worst thing about teams:
it forces you to re-learn chat app standards that have been in place for well over a decade, and it does so for abso-fucking-lutely no good reason!
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I feel like my company pays me well just to deal with all the crappy software we have to use. Teams, Jira, Salesforce, ServiceNow, it's quite the shitsym.
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Not having to use agile work methods should be another
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Not having to use agile work methods should be another
I could compromise over that, but teams and zoom is a big no
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My company also uses both. We create support tickets in ServiceNow but it is also used for requesting access to different programs and network drives. It has been used for a couple of years and I have still not figured out how to see what I have access to, which feels like a basic feature.
I feel this so hard hell just looking for tasks assigned to me can be a challenge. And my workplace uses SN for everything, so we got STRY tickets for our agile development which we then create CHG tickets to deploy with CTASK tickets to associate with other teams when we need their help in a deployment which is almost all of them. Writing up a change is easily a 30 minute exercise in frustration
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I’ve had to write some automations using the Jira Cloud API. holy shit, is this an accurate pyramid
What happened? I also worked with the JIRA API (on-prem tho), and didn't run into bigger troubles.
The only thing I really dislike is the "discovery" process. I don't have much to compare it to, but going through /createmeta/ and what keys are allowed/work or not and how to get to the correct service, and what data is shown or not. Maybe I did it wrong.
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Where is "slapping management insistent on AI?"
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GitHub tickets are fine.
Jira is complicated because PMs want it to do everything. It can, but there's no good reason for it.
This. So fucking much this. I've seen Jira used to plan waterfall schedules, to track meeting actions, and as a relational database. And all of them claiming to be "agile".
When used for the right thing in the right way, Jira is a great tool. It is people who make it shitty, and specifically the type of PM who doesn't understand the complexities, people or technical, of their work.
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Not having to use windows is the very basic
The post isn't even about OS.
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What's a good alternative to Jira?
Goose farming
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Yep. "Code Snippets" recently stopped working for me (the overlay doesn't open anymore), so I only have the two remaining ways. I can still do code blocks using three backticks, but inline code I can only do using the keyboard shortcut.
How they managed to fuck things up so badly is beyond me, and how they managed to keep them fucked up for so long is even further beyond.
Still works for me, are you sure?
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They are now finally putting some work in to improve it. I don’t remember much what I used to hate particularly, it was mostly UI related, bugs or the bad Mac implementation.
The new combined view with chats and teams is much better than the split sections.
It took them until just recently to have a basic code block format like everyone else, instead of this annoying editor-in-editor mess they had before (and still kept for some reason).
It used to be very buggy like you had to hunt down the source of some notification to mark it as read. It still doesn’t 100% sync with Outlook. If an event is cancelled and I click delete in Outlook, I also have to go to Teams and „read“ this update. You can set group events in Teams but they somehow don’t end up in Outlook.
What I really like are the clay-like emojis designs.
Saying the Mac implementation is bad when 99% of the apps ported from iOS to Windows are an unoptimized clunky mess is hypocritical as fuck.
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Where is "slapping management insistent on AI?"
AI can be useful. Don't shit on it in a generalist statement...
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On a 4k monitor you can still only get about 80 characters of monospaced font per line, because of the "negative space" fetish UX designers have.
Something dead simple like posting a stack trace, and then having someone able to, you know, read it... It's just not something teams really does well.
I can understand how the tooling probably does a ton of stuff that corporate users want (integrating with calendars, tons of access controls for spaces for important people to talk, etc) but for a dev working primarily with a handful of other devs and qas, there is a feature set mismatch. I can't begin to tell you how badly I don't give a shit about 99% of its features.
How long has it been since you used Teams? I'm no apologist, I have plenty of gripes with that piece of crap software, but this seems like a crazy stretch. Teams makes it almost trivial to embed code blocks with syntax highlighting for a wide array of languages, which can be easily copied out of Teams or opened in a separate viewer for easier reading.
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How long has it been since you used Teams? I'm no apologist, I have plenty of gripes with that piece of crap software, but this seems like a crazy stretch. Teams makes it almost trivial to embed code blocks with syntax highlighting for a wide array of languages, which can be easily copied out of Teams or opened in a separate viewer for easier reading.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's been about 36 hours?
Maybe we're using an old version or something, but code blocks still don't expand horizontally to fill the available space, so we just get a horizontal slider bar.
or opened in a separate viewer for easier reading.
Yes, that's my beef. If I need to juggle content to external text editors to read them, then IMO it has failed the categorical imperative of the tool.
Edit:
Back to work Monday morning:
Collapse all side bars, you get 89 monospaced characters. Approximately 2/3 of the horizontal screen space is reserved for empty space.
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AI can be useful. Don't shit on it in a generalist statement...
They weren’t making a generalist statement. They were complaining about management insisting on slapping AI everywhere.
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I'm convinced that Jira is difficult on purpose to sell more consultancy and gold partnerships and trainers
No consultancy can ever make Jira fast. It’s incredible that it takes several seconds just to open a motherfucking goddamn issue.
I swear all their SQL is
select * from *;
