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    Just in time for 10 years of Tuta/Tutanota, we are launching the most significant security upgrade of Tuta Mail with TutaCrypt. This groundbreaking post-quantum encryption protocol will secure emails with a hybrid protocol combining state-of-the-art quantum-safe algorithms with traditional algorithms (AES/ECC) making Tuta Mail the world's first email provider that can protect emails from quantum computer attacks.

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      Just in time for 10 years of Tuta/Tutanota, we are launching the most significant security upgrade of Tuta Mail with TutaCrypt. This groundbreaking post-quantum encryption protocol will secure emails with a hybrid protocol combining state-of-the-art quantum-safe algorithms with traditional algorithms (AES/ECC) making Tuta Mail the world's first email provider that can protect emails from quantum computer attacks.

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      Quite a lot of cryptography detail in their blog post, not all of which do I understand. Curious to find out what the community thinks of this ...

      For instance:

      We’ve re-built the Tuta cryptographic protocol from the ground up and are now upgrading our encryption using quantum-resistant algorithms together with conventional algorithms (Kyber in combination with AES 256 and ECDH x25519 in a hybrid protocol) for our asymmetric public key encryption of emails

      I know Bruce Schneier says rolling your own Crypto is hard and most will get it wrong. So is it concerning that they made their own encryption protocol?

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        Quite a lot of cryptography detail in their blog post, not all of which do I understand. Curious to find out what the community thinks of this ...

        For instance:

        We’ve re-built the Tuta cryptographic protocol from the ground up and are now upgrading our encryption using quantum-resistant algorithms together with conventional algorithms (Kyber in combination with AES 256 and ECDH x25519 in a hybrid protocol) for our asymmetric public key encryption of emails

        I know Bruce Schneier says rolling your own Crypto is hard and most will get it wrong. So is it concerning that they made their own encryption protocol?

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        It sounds like they’re just encrypting it twice (once with each algorithm), but I could be wrong.

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          Quite a lot of cryptography detail in their blog post, not all of which do I understand. Curious to find out what the community thinks of this ...

          For instance:

          We’ve re-built the Tuta cryptographic protocol from the ground up and are now upgrading our encryption using quantum-resistant algorithms together with conventional algorithms (Kyber in combination with AES 256 and ECDH x25519 in a hybrid protocol) for our asymmetric public key encryption of emails

          I know Bruce Schneier says rolling your own Crypto is hard and most will get it wrong. So is it concerning that they made their own encryption protocol?

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          So, are they putting a piece of cardboard in front of a bullet-resistant door?

          🤔

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            Just in time for 10 years of Tuta/Tutanota, we are launching the most significant security upgrade of Tuta Mail with TutaCrypt. This groundbreaking post-quantum encryption protocol will secure emails with a hybrid protocol combining state-of-the-art quantum-safe algorithms with traditional algorithms (AES/ECC) making Tuta Mail the world's first email provider that can protect emails from quantum computer attacks.

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            making Tuta Mail the world’s first email provider that can protect emails from quantum computer attacks.

            I don't see how mails are secured when being sended from or to a Tutanota user and to or from a non Tutanota user. Those mails are only secured on their servers.

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              making Tuta Mail the world’s first email provider that can protect emails from quantum computer attacks.

              I don't see how mails are secured when being sended from or to a Tutanota user and to or from a non Tutanota user. Those mails are only secured on their servers.

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              If you receive a mail from a tuta user you only get a download link. Which at least protects the content but not the metadata that someone send you an email.
              If a non tuta user sends a mail to a tuta user, there isn't much tuta can do unfortunately.
              I'm not quite sure how you expect tuta to do magic? They do what they can.

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