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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • S [email protected]

    Yeah that's why collectivists worldwide always strive to think for you what you need, and taking the standard of living to the lowest possible level, that's way no one can have have what they need, except obviously the ones in power, ideologically speaking

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    I would never allow it. Experimenting with gadget combos is how I live

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    • B [email protected]

      I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

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      Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.

      Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.

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      • B [email protected]

        I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

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        This isn't how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.

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        • W [email protected]

          What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just...killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

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          Why would anyone do this? Why wouldn't the normal legal process supported by all the rest of the rich bozos stop the one Uber rich psycho.

          Why would anyone not notice a million terminators being made before they were unleashed?

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            The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

            The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

            The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

            The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

            Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

            Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

            Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

            How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

            A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

            Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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            Where’s Daddy?
            wtf

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            • K [email protected]

              I need names and addresses! For... Reasons unrelated to any lethal plans

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              Usually you need to provide sources for your claims, that’s a normal thing that people will ask for, you know.

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              • B [email protected]

                Then who would they lord over and whose hard work would they make their money off of, on the other hand using these threats to bring back slavery feels like the scarier future to me

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                We in the USA are telling farmers that they won't deport their labor if they are accountable to them. They can very easily have those who defect or resist in any way deported to concentration camps. They can also be imprisoned for trying to slip over the border the other way.

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                • W [email protected]

                  Typically, no one wants to die for stupid shit, especially when they are in the wrong. But when there is no consequences such as dying, a.k.a no nukes, why not go to war and take everything? There's no morals between countries...unless enforced by nukes.

                  This is why I'm pro nuclear armament of all countries.

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                  This is the dumbest possible position because it maximizes the chance that they are used. There is no reason to think mad working was likely amongst a few actors and it almost failed repeatedly. There is even less reason to suppose it scales.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn't think so.

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                    Iran is a terrorist state run by lunatics. Them and Israel having them is even worse than Israel having them.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.

                      Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.

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                      Isreal is a terrorist state, the US is a terrorist state.
                      Assasinating people or blowing them up on their way to work is terror. Blowing up pagers in homes while a child is bring it to daddy is terrorism.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        Has Israel officially declared war on Iran? Apart from that, why aren't they protected by the Geneva convention?

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                        An official declaration of war is not required. These nuclear scientists are not protected by the Geneva convention because Iranian nuclear infrastructure, including persons, are military targets. The purpose is to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity and that's a purposeful military objective.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          No Iran definitely has the moral high ground, by a fair margin. Israel has been committing a genocide, as well as running a full on apartheid ethnostate, if you didn't know. But even if we ignore that, the IAEA as wel as the American intelligence community (think NSA, CIA and so on) have both assessed, as recently as a week ago, that Iran has not attempted to build nuclear weapons since 2003. Iran is being bombed, illegally, based on a lie. That's high ground enough for me.

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                          They can stop enrichment of uranium any time it's not even the only choice for nuclear power and they long surpassed the target they need to generate power. They ARE trying for nukes just aren't close due to first negotiations then sabatogue and murders.

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                          • C [email protected]

                            Yeah, that's cool.

                            Well I guess my opinion is that it's essentially never "legitimate" to be the aggressor. Determining which party is the aggressor can sometimes be complicated, but it often boils down to this: which party is crossing the border?

                            In this case, I'm sure many would say that Iran took the first aggressive action by pursuing a nuclear program, but I have a few issues with that. First, Israel already has nuclear weapons, so surely that is an earlier provocation. Secondly, Iran still isn't crossing the border, Israel was first to pull the trigger, and they pulled a lot of triggers (in Iranian territory). And finally, Israel and Iran have been in the process of forging nuclear treaties many times now, and nearly every time Israel has sabotaged the talks with provocative, often military actions, or they simply left the table - it seems clear to me that Israel does not want a nuclear deal, they will not accept any kind of compromise.

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                            If that's your metric, then I think Israel meets it. Iran has sponsored and directed non-state actors in Israel. These include both Hamas and Hezbollah. Additionally, Houthi militants have targeted Israeli civilian shipping.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.

                              Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.

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                              Terrorism is internationally recognized as when a group or organization unaffiliated with a recognized government uses violence to achieve a political goal. "Terrorist state" is a contradiction in terms.

                              Netanyahu is leading a genocide and starting wars, all to avoid the regular democratic and legal process of Israel. Why are you carrying water for him?

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                              • M [email protected]

                                This is the dumbest possible position because it maximizes the chance that they are used. There is no reason to think mad working was likely amongst a few actors and it almost failed repeatedly. There is even less reason to suppose it scales.

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                                If they do need to be used anyway, then it was perhaps for the best.

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                                • H [email protected]

                                  Hey don't worry about Mossad and the USA, just close your curtains tonight in the house you've lived in for 40 years. You'll be fine.

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                                  I mean, if I was a key part of the nuclear program of the US, and there was another country specifically targeting the US's nuclear program, I would assume myself to be a target.

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                                    What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just...killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

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                                    Because drones are expensive, and it would be a waste of money to use them on poor people.

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                                    • H [email protected]

                                      How can people be so fucking stupid as to keep their key personnel vulnerable like that?

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                                      Incompetence is the hallmark of the mullahs' regime

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        They can stop enrichment of uranium any time it's not even the only choice for nuclear power and they long surpassed the target they need to generate power. They ARE trying for nukes just aren't close due to first negotiations then sabatogue and murders.

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                                        They ARE trying for nukes

                                        What do you know that the IAEA, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and the rest of the entire American intelligence community don't? What an unbelievably arrogant way to fall for the exact same lie that they used for the illegal invasion of Iraq and all the war crimes that ensued.

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                                        • cabillaud@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                          Incompetence is the hallmark of the mullahs' regime

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                                          Then how are they a threat?

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