What is your faith/religion?

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I wasn't really raised with religion, but most of my family is Christian. I considered myself atheist as a young adult. But after many spiritual experiences, I believe in the unexplainable, but I'm not a fan of organized religion or cults.

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If such happens it is entirely on the responsability and choice of who did. No cop out, no resorting to a scripture to excuse actions, no easy forgiveness.

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Quaker curious

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God is the one throwing the baby in a dumpster.

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You got my atention. Explain your point of view, please.

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Who is responsible for birth defects? For natural disaster? For sickness? These things aren't choices and we aren't responsible for them, they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.

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Subgenius.

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Upvoting you because as an atheist I think its stupid that others are downvoting just because someone says they lean towards christianity

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Who is responsible for birth defects?

Biology, genetics and environmental causes. And poor judgment from the parents. So, it depends.

For natural disaster?

I guess... physics, primordially? Followed by stuborness, shortsightness and stupidity of humans?

For sickness?

Virus, bacteria, exposure, malnourishment, and others?

These things aren't choices [...]

A good part is outside our capability to act upon, I will gladly grant you that. But there are parts where we can in fact influence the outcome.

[...] and we aren't responsible for them, [...]

The moment any individual realizes something shoul not be in such a way, that individual can take responsibility to avoid or mitigate it.

[...] they happen because god created a cruel world for us to suffer and die in. God created the dumpster and threw us in.

At best, reality is indeferent to what happens to an individual, a species, a planet, a star system or even a galaxy.

We have been setting our course in reality from the moment we achieved sentience and consciousness. We find things cruel, unfair, whatever, because they do not favour us.
We're owed nothing for existing. We take a debt towards each other in helping exist in such reality.

There are no gods nor higher powers to shift blame here. We're here, now, and we have to deal with it. We can choose to try to make this world better for others or allow it to follow its own devises or even actively make it worse.

Individual agency. The stage is set: write and enact your own play.

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Biology, genetics and environmental causes.

And... who made those?

I guess… physics, primordially?

And who made that!?

We’re owed nothing for existing.

We are, actually. We didn't ask to exist. It was forced onto us by a cruel god that thought it would be neat to make humans.

If we think back to the dumpster baby, god created a child and threw them in a dumpster. For fun. It doesn't get to wash its hands and say "I don't owe them anything, it's up to them to survive." It's still responsible for creation and it is derelict in its duty.

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Eh. I could care less about downvotes and I understand that the idea of practicing Christianity for reasons beyond personal faith in it is going to be controversial to Christians and atheists alike. If someone made a chill Atheist/agnostic "church" where there was singing and discussions on moral philosophy, and a community of people devoted to helping each other and their community I'd probably be doing that but as it stands religion is the only game in town for such things and I think that it's good to do something like this. Plus I don't know, it's kind of cool to be a part of rituals people have been doing for thousands of years.

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My true faith is: don't be an asshole and be a decent, rational and empathetic human being.

Everything else I may or may not believe does not matter, it's decoration.

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Raised non-denominational Christian to Agnostic to Gnostic-curious.

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We are, actually. We didn't ask to exist. It was forced onto us by a cruel god that thought it would be neat to make humans.

We aren't owed nothing.

I'm going to take a hit and say I made a poor job at explaining myself and clarify that, for the creed I mentioned, the creator entity did not made humans. What the creator entity did was set off the unfolding of reality as we perceive it: the Universe. Humans contained within it are off shoots of causality.

There was never a direct nor directed intention to create humanity, thus, nothing is owed to it.

The premise is that anything to exist is better than nothing. If the Universe was to be populated with barren rocks and flaming balls of matter - which is, mostly - without humanity to perceive it that creation mythos was already fullfilled.

If we think back to the dumpster baby, god created a child and threw them in a dumpster. For fun. It doesn't get to wash its hands and say "I don't owe them anything, it's up to them to survive." It's still responsible for creation and it is derelict in its duty.

That premise is the premise of the christian, islamic, jewish, and all other self appointed omnipotent creating entities. Those entities claim to have created humanity, in their image, to ocuppy a world they devised for that specific purpose. A world created in such a way that, nonetheless, humans make use of their own agency to tamper and distort.

I'm not a believer but that is the short and dirty version of those myths: the world was perfect, until humans decided they weren't completely happy with it. Which leads us back to pointing fingers at the creator, for making a poor job.

This is a circular discussion.

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Satanist.

Raised Mormon, was a Mormon missionary. Had a nervous breakdown, and religious leaders said that I must be sinning, and needed to pray more, read my scriptures more, and repent. But... What sin? And how was I supposed to pray/study more when I had already dedicated two years of my life to preaching? E.g., there's 24 hours in the day, and I'm already spending multiple hours doing that stuff, so where am I supposed to fit that in?

That was the first crack in the foundation. Took a while, but once you realize that religious leaders are just men (and yes, it's always men in the Mormon church), and that despite their claims they don't have any prophetic powers, then you start questioning a lit of things, like how you can even know truth. (Spoiler: you can't know truth without some kind of objective evidence, and all religions' truth claims are based on subjective evidence and "see?, it says so, right here in my book!")

Atheist is a label that says what you don't believe. Satanist is a label that says what I do believe. So I eventually settled on Satanist.

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Maybe this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

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Zen Buddhist. I grew up Christian, realized I was believing out of obligation rather than genuine conviction, but also I'm pan and Christians have made it very clear that's not okay with them.

I was areligious for awhile. Which I use because I am still an atheist; I don't see much evidence for gods, but that isn't important to Buddhism.

I appreciate the Buddha's teachings and find them incredibly helpful. I'm calmer, more focused, and over all, happier for my practice. It gives me a spiritual outlet that doesn't make me feel "dirty" the way Christianity did.

There are aspects to Buddhism that I have to take on faith even though I am otherwise a skeptical individual. But ultimately, those things don't change how I would have had to live my life. And I believe that a true practitioner needs a balance of logic anf faith: too much logic, and you kill your faith. Too much faith and you wind up in a cult. You need enough logic to stay grounded, and enough faith to believe. But you have to acknowledge that you can rarely prove the things you take on faith and because of that, there will always be non-belivers, and that has to be okay.

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It's more complicated than that since I do believe God exists but in a way that is incomprehensible to humans, and, according to all evidence, doesn't "intervene" with the universe. I say "intervene" because God, as classically described, is simultaneously incapable of intervening and incapable of not intervening. If we define God as "an omnipotent being"(which, for the record, I do not), then He is necessarily also all knowing and exists outside of the limitations of time and space. Such a being would be perfectly optimized as well, and so it would be impossible for anything to occur without its express permission and cause. Therefore, under classical theism, it seems impossible for God to say, answer prayers, because this would imply that He could possibly change His mind or that what was happening wasn't already what He wants to begin with.

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I learned recently that there is such a thing as nontheist Quakers.

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I guess at this point I should consider myself a buddhist.

I was raised in a Christian household in the us midwest but never felt drawn to it or any form of sprituality, over the years Buddhism in its many forms kept creeping up on me enough times and explaining things in such elegant ways that I eventually looked into Tibetan Buddhism more closely and realized that once you understand how the symbolism of it all works in terms of connecting the words of practices to actually useful life tips then it becomes a great benefit to yourself and others.

As simply as possible, I chose this route because it is like becoming a scientist of experiences and all the practices we do are things that prove what we experience just as a scientist forms a postulate, a Buddhist forms a practice that leads to some form of awareness.

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