French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found
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Consent in a situation like this is difficult to establish, to the point of it being pointless. Your comment implies to me that you think if the person said "OK" to a search request then whatever happened next is their own fault.
Consider just the situation where you're in the immigration line and two uniformed officers walk up to you and say, "please come with us." If you go with them, is that voluntary? If you say "yes" I just think "voluntary" doesn't hold much meaning. What happens if you don't volunteer to go with them? Surely, they say, "come with us now or you'll be arrested." And if you don't volunteer at that point, they'll physically restrain you and take you away.
Since most people are able to understand the subtext of the situation, they're able to tell that, "please come with us" actually means "you are required to come with us now. You may either walk of your own accord, or we will take you captive and punish you beyond whatever we initially intended." So, there's not any consent happening. Just deciding whether being beaten and dragged away in public would be helpful to you, and in many cases it is not.
You might be confusing US law around unlawful search and seizure with US law around border crossings. While the ACLU's position is that the 4th amendment trumps CBP, CBP's position is that it does not and that you cannot stop them.
Consent in a situation like this is difficult to establish, to the point of it being pointless.
Hard disagree.
Consenting to a search, or have one mandated by a judge's order, is one of the fundamental pillars of citizen rights and laws in this country.
Was it a legal or illegal search? That's not a pointless question to ask.
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Yep, 12 years of Democrats in charge and none of them did anything to reign in this whole apparatus
Its hard to actually repeal it. Any politician, republican, democrat, independent, whatever, who does so, and then a terrorist attack happens, they take the blame. That's why nobody tries. Its not an excuse tho, its just an explanation.
Yeah, of course. The patriot act was already written way before 9/11, it was a wishlist and they only needed the right excuse to pass it. It's something they'd always wanted to begin with (both Republicans and Democrats), and it's politically not possible to repeal.
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You're not missing a fucking thing, buddy.
Personally I'd like to visit the US for their national parks, or whatever is left after this administration policies.
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I told my wife before I could never go to the US because of the stuff I write online, now I'm sure of it
These guys are handing their phones over to show work itinerary in their emails amd the immigration officers are then going through all their other emails and messages.
Never, never, never, hand your unlocked phone over to an immigration officer. Print everything you need out before hand.
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You're not missing a fucking thing, buddy.
But think of the endless suburban car parks and Walmarts. Such culture.
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Okay so the "Don't travel to the US right now" aside, do people these days still not understand that border crossing are a sensitive location?
Like, literally, anywhere you go, the first thing you should do before leaving is encrypt and reinstall / factory reset (which should delete all encryption keys to the old data) the devices. And if you have very sensitive stuff, use a disk overwrite program, and for phones start recording a video with the phone aimed at like a wall (and turn off the audio recording). Leave it recording overnight and it should fill up your phone. Use 4K recording to fill the storage faster. Then just wipe the phone again. Now, DONT DOWNLOAD ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED SENSITIVE. Load the phone with innocuous things like pet photos, nature, etc... and act like a "normie". Don't have anything critical of any politician, especially not of the country you're visiting, nor of its allies. Its best to not have any social media apps, preferrably, you should never post things under your name, but if you already did have such accounts, delete them.
If they ask you "Do you have any social media accounts" you say "I don't recall having any" or "I don't think so" and "I'm not the type of person to use social media". Or alternatively, you can have a social media account that have only non-political posts, and show then that.
This is completely unnecessary if you travel to a western democracy, like an EU country, Canada, Australia, etc. America is no longer part of that group though, sadly.
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The Nazis literally did this with a law. They made it illegal to be critical of the party. Fuck the alarm, we've already been had.
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These guys are handing their phones over to show work itinerary in their emails amd the immigration officers are then going through all their other emails and messages.
Never, never, never, hand your unlocked phone over to an immigration officer. Print everything you need out before hand.
Yeah but he can just say "hand over your unlocked phone or I will reject your entry" and then it's the same thing
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You're not missing a fucking thing, buddy.
I have to admit that ironically "Days Gone" made me fall in love with your nature.
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France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
Honestly, dude probably dodged a bullet. Stay away from our shit hole country
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These guys are handing their phones over to show work itinerary in their emails amd the immigration officers are then going through all their other emails and messages.
Never, never, never, hand your unlocked phone over to an immigration officer. Print everything you need out before hand.
If you use fingerprint or face scan to unlock your phone, they can compel you to unlock your phone.
If you use a PIN, they cannot.
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My entry to China was really easy. I'm very concerned about my return trip to the US. I have to come back at my home and family are there.. doors anyone know if I'm denied entity if I can just book and flight and leave? Why do I need to have the government deport off in rolling to go on my own?
The cruelty is the point, so I imagine you would be detained and forcibly removed. They would make it as miserable for you as possible.
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There tends to be a general distaste toward politicians in general among the scientific community.
I fucking wonder why... Surely it's not the outright hostility towards them by this administration
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Dictators hate intellectuals.
I don't even have to name any specific one, its a trend across all dictatorships.
Yeah I've been waiting for someone in academia to piss Trump off enough for him to go full-on Pol Pot...
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Personally I'd like to visit the US for their national parks, or whatever is left after this administration policies.
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France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
All countries should advise their citizens against traveling to the USA.
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France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.
I wonder how they search it. I doubt they manually read every fucking text message in all apps, so I guess they search for keywords or something.
So, let's say someone wanted to get someone in trouble, they could write them an email with some "incriminating" white text on white background and have them stopped by the thought police at the border.
It would be funny if they stopped some Canadian Mexican and found shittalk about Trump on his phone.
Btw. Does anyone have Ted Cruz's email address?
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Please don't say "Nazis". Like, which Nazis, the 1940s German ones or 2025 American ones? It's confusing. Please be clear next time you talk about them.
Nazis are Nazis, the rest is semantics.
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immigration officers at an airport searched his phone
There's no mention in the article if this search was voluntary, or not.
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WTF is a voluntary search?
"Attention all flight passengers. This is ICE on the speaker. If you want to be searched, please raise your hand and we will get to you shortly."
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Yeah but he can just say "hand over your unlocked phone or I will reject your entry" and then it's the same thing
Except nobody molested your phone.
