The world reacts to Trump's sweeping tariffs: 'No basis in logic'
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"I'm too smart to deal with the likes of you."
Riding that dunning-krueger curve like a pro fucking surfer.
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Advertising should just be illegal.
It gives an unfair advantage to those who already have an unfair advantage.
I recommend installing an addon called AdNauseam to block ads in addition to sending data that you've clicked them.
Please everyone. Try to understand that being a useful idiot is the norm these days. It's what's cool.
wrote 7 days ago last edited bySomeone needs to create plugins not to block data being sent, but to send inordinate amounts of trash data.
Make the whole system pointless.
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Well just to be fair - and i know people like shitting on Trump but hear me out - the complaints from workers against out-shoring labor to other countries has been very loud for many years.
Everytime the newspaper reports "Company X has moved its factory to China" you can be sure that lots of people are gonna complain about it. But tariffs are the only thing that actually forces companies to put the factories back to the USA. Or do you have a better idea?
wrote 7 days ago last edited byI think you're kind of being unfairly downvoted because it's definitely underappreciated how much tariffs are used in modern trade deals.
Putting selective import tariffs on certain goods (like say car manufacturing) might be a wise move if you want to encourage the US to develop a manufacturing base. It's worth noting that the US, and most other countries have been doing this selectively for years.
This is reeeaally far from the tariffs that have actually been anounced though, which are the highest rate the US has had in around 100 years, and applied pretty indescriminately. There are some goods that the US just can't produce itself (like certain rare earth minerals that aren't in the USA) but even worse, because of the insane logic of applying them to countries as they have been done, it opens up this type of event:
- A comany like Apple might assemble laptops in the US, but import parts like chips from, say, China.
- They now have around a 40% tariff on all chips, which is really going to drive up cost, and leaves them with two options.
- Option one, they bring all manufacturing into the US, which would take a long time to build up the infrastructure, and still really ramp up the price because wages in the US are so much higher than they are in China
- Option two, they outsource everything to say Mexico or Canada who don't pay the tariffs on Chinese chips, and just pay the wholesale import tariffs are needed to bring things from Mexico/Canada to the US. They also get to skip out all the reciprocal tariffs that other countries are placing on the US in retaliation for the recently announces ones when they import out to, say, Europe.
Even option one is bad, because Apple might sell laptops internally, but the newly increased price makes them super uncompetitive with rival firms overseas, so it might still lead to a loss in overall jobs for US workers.
I'm not pretending this doesn't suck - but US based international companies like Apple have a clear incentive to just forgoe the US as much as possible now. This kind of risk is why countries have traditionally been very conservative with changing tariffs.
I think you're probably right that there might be an argument for countries to be less conservative than they have been, but the US government just cranked up the dial from 0 to 11 and we're all about to find out what that might look like in real time.
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Thats still too long imo. Patents are 20 years, so should every IP protection.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byIf it's good enough for inventors, it's good enough for musicians, writters and software developers.
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Summary
Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.
The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.
Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byNone of Trump's policies have any basis in reality
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Summary
Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.
The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.
Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.
wrote 7 days ago last edited bySo 100% on brand for Trump and America in general
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I saw someone say it seems that the tariffs were calculated by dividing our trade deficit by their exports to us and cutting that number in half. Another person analyzed his charts and concluded they look a lot like they were generated by AI.
So, there is, literally no basis in logic. Either one of Trump's minions calculated what it would take to recoup the difference in the trade deficit and just wrote it down and he announced that as the new basis for international trade, which has never, ever been done, for the reason that it is fucking idiotic, or he asked Gemini how to execute his already objectively stupid policy and wrote an Executive Order making it the law.
And the fact that we are forced to accept people on the Internet's guesses about how he calculated these numbers may actually be worse than the fact that just about every product on the market more complex than a stapler just jumped about 30% in price.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byAI would make a lot of sense, considering that there are uninhabited islands on the list.
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Your reply has a lot of Yamcha energy.
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"I'm too smart to deal with the likes of you."
Riding that dunning-krueger curve like a pro fucking surfer.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byYeah, fools think everyone is worth arguing with.
Gonna block you, too.
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Summary
Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.
The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.
Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.
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I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byOfficial EU website hosting American-made media for a nominal fee. Can't tariff data!
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Oh no. Anyway...
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I saw someone say it seems that the tariffs were calculated by dividing our trade deficit by their exports to us and cutting that number in half. Another person analyzed his charts and concluded they look a lot like they were generated by AI.
So, there is, literally no basis in logic. Either one of Trump's minions calculated what it would take to recoup the difference in the trade deficit and just wrote it down and he announced that as the new basis for international trade, which has never, ever been done, for the reason that it is fucking idiotic, or he asked Gemini how to execute his already objectively stupid policy and wrote an Executive Order making it the law.
And the fact that we are forced to accept people on the Internet's guesses about how he calculated these numbers may actually be worse than the fact that just about every product on the market more complex than a stapler just jumped about 30% in price.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byHeather Cox Richardson, historian of the republican (Lincoln) party said that in her daily newsletter. She cites all her sources.
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Lmao wat.
I’d ask if you’re serious, but I’m also sure you are.
Honestly, I was expecting this administration to be mind-numbingly stupid, but somehow they keep finding ways to surpass my expectations on that front on a daily basis. I’d be impressed if it wasn’t so catastrophic.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byEvery time I think they're hiring rock bottom they bring out stronger drills.
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Shortly after Trump’s announcement, the British government said the United States remains the U.K.’s “closest ally.”
I'm sorry TERF island, that's not gonna keep Trump from stabbing you in the back too.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byHeads up, UK, the US will use you as a toilet every chance you give it, and we've just dropped all pretense, however thin it may have previously been, about caring about our "allies". Speaking as a US citizen, I would strongly advise against considering yourself a close friend to the US until we get our shit sorted.
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That whole story assumes the population of the USA will continue to have the capacity to buy stuff... this assumption is ever less likely as the USA is heading into the worst recession they have ever experienced
wrote 7 days ago last edited byYou have to remember the people doing this are fucking idiots who have convinced themselves they're smarter than everyone else.
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Summary
Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.
The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.
Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byGood god he is so freaking stupid I can't even...
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That whole story assumes the population of the USA will continue to have the capacity to buy stuff... this assumption is ever less likely as the USA is heading into the worst recession they have ever experienced
wrote 7 days ago last edited byI recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.
Depression.
It's a depression.
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If you're mad at me for not voting, blame the people who keep nominating establishment candidates.
Every ounce of effort you spend trying to convince me to vote for the lesser-evil would be better spent convincing people not to nominate the lesser-evil.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byOur options on the left are to unite yesterday or die.
There isn't really another option anymore. People are dying, now, because we can't rally.
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Every time I think they're hiring rock bottom they bring out stronger drills.
wrote 7 days ago last edited byThat’s a hilariously apt analogy. Drill baby drill! 🫠
