Seriously what's that idea?
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There's no block system on the whole of the internet that prevents that. Even if they couldn't reply to your comments, they could reply to anyone else's, or post a top-level comment, or make their own post entirely. What do you propose? Don't let them even type your name?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think what OP is wanting is "block this person from seeing/commenting on my posts" in addition to "block me from seeing this person's posts."
This is certainly possible (and exists) on many platforms, but is much more difficult on a federated platform. It becomes actually impossible if your posts are accessible to the unauthenticated public.
N.B. I'll withhold judgment on whether full-stack blocking is beneficial, but there have been cases where this style of blocking is used to amplify echo chambers (e.g. Reddit). There is no perfect system besides simply staying the fuck off social media.
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Final conclusion, no offence:
Blocking is rather useless in the Fediverse, unless you submit to complete ignorance.Imagine a hypothetical situation where I have beef with you. I create a second account and block you. I use this account to scout your posts, then using that other account, I go to all of the posts you're commenting on, and post comments calling you out for being... I don't know, whatever nasty thing I want to call you out for. Because that account has blocked you, you can't see those posts (and presumably not the replies to them, either), and can't defend yourself.
What problem have we solved?
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But they can still mock you without you witnessing.
...and? They could do that that even without seeing your content.
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But they can still mock you without you witnessing.
That's always true. In real life, and online. You can't control what people think or say.
If you want to witness it, don't block them. It's your peace of mind, you decide how to spend it.
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So I have to unblock and permanently have to be a reporter in hope something changes?
Tbh that would triple the work for admins...
Not sure what the best course of action is, perhaps just reporting, then blocking and hoping moderators make justice.
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Would you rather make your blocklists public?
I would be in favor of public blocklists, to be honest. At least let the person know that you've blocked them, and so you will not see any of their replies.
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You get to control your own experience, not their experience.
wrote last edited by [email protected]My experience is, I see that there's a comment, I can't read it, I can't upvote or downvote it, and I couldn't report it, wonderful!
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There's literally no way in a federated environment to prevent blocked accounts from interacting with your posts without making your blocked accounts list public
wrote last edited by [email protected]What I'd really like is if comment downvotes were public.
Edit: Thanks to Optional, here are the users who downvoted this comment (also lists users who upvoted).
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*I've been blocked by Rhynoplaz, but I can still comment shit about them and they've got no way to know*
Hey, Rhynoplaz is a dogfucker and admits to it here: https://legit-site.url/bullshit.
See what I just did there? That is the problem.
If I never see it, I'll never care.
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Imagine a hypothetical situation where I have beef with you. I create a second account and block you. I use this account to scout your posts, then using that other account, I go to all of the posts you're commenting on, and post comments calling you out for being... I don't know, whatever nasty thing I want to call you out for. Because that account has blocked you, you can't see those posts (and presumably not the replies to them, either), and can't defend yourself.
What problem have we solved?
Well multi accounting is the next problem...
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What I'd really like is if comment downvotes were public.
Edit: Thanks to Optional, here are the users who downvoted this comment (also lists users who upvoted).
They are on some instances.
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Not sure what the best course of action is, perhaps just reporting, then blocking and hoping moderators make justice.
Dunno either, maybe just confronting...
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They can see, and they can comment, want screenshots?
They are not refuting you. They are talking about how it is on Bluesky, as a point of reference. They are not talking about the fediverse.
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My experience is, I see that there's a comment, I can't read it, I can't upvote or downvote it, and I couldn't report it, wonderful!
Why would you want to read a comment by someone you've blocked, and why would you want to upvote, downvote, or report a comment that you haven't read?
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Final conclusion, no offence:
Blocking is rather useless in the Fediverse, unless you submit to complete ignorance.wrote last edited by [email protected]That's mostly true; it's optimized for wide dissemination of information, and the idea of keeping a specific person from seeing information that's shown to the rest of the world isn't very compatible with that. It doesn't really work on Reddit or web forums that are visible without logging in either since a person you've blocked can still view your posts anonymously.
A bit more looking brings me to the ActivityPub spec. Your server should tell the blocked user's server about the block, and the blocked user's server shouldn't allow them to interact with your posts or comments (that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to see your posts or comments).
The thing is, in network protocol documents, should means the behavior is optional. Fediverse software doesn't have to support blocks at all according to the protocol.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
wrote last edited by [email protected]It... Makes perfect sense?
YOU blocked them. They didn't block you.
It's like when you were a kid and told to ignore the kid bullying you; except that it actually works.
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It... Makes perfect sense?
YOU blocked them. They didn't block you.
It's like when you were a kid and told to ignore the kid bullying you; except that it actually works.
I love you, but I hate you!
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Why would you want to read a comment by someone you've blocked, and why would you want to upvote, downvote, or report a comment that you haven't read?
Ask yourself that question when it's about time.
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if so many of the sane users block the same nutjobs, then there won’t be anybody to downvote or refute those nutjobs
Don't worry, a lot of us never block anybody, specifically so we can do exactly that.
i used to do that, but my sanity suffered, now i block liberally
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because neener-neener & too bad so sad?
Seriously, though, you shouldn't get to decide for everyone who to censor.
Just because you don't want to see it doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
That would be tyranny of the overly sensitive.
