Live long enough to see yourself become the villain
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I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.
Yeah, he was always an idiot, but I remember reading a super interesting article about how he accidentally radicalized himself when he changed X's algorithm. He tweaked it to be far right, and radicalized himself because he's one of the most active users on the platform. FAFO.
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I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.
I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.
I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Well, a decade ago I had hope too, but also already felt the guy was fishy (because he already had a history of overpromising and under-delivering and in the areas I was an expert in, I had spotted him outright lying) and so was skeptical about his promises and his companies. Also, having been involved in Tech Startups, my expectation from people in his position and his language were already negative since the Startup World back then was already dominated by scam artists with a salesmanship or Finance backgrund for whom Tech was a vehicle for self-enrichment, not by idealists who loved challenges or the actual Tech.
Also by that point I had already spent a good period in Investment Finance and could recognize a certain style of bollocks a mile away.
I wasn't aware of just how much a shit person the guy was, but all my instints told me he was a sociopath who would only ever do anything better for the World if it made him more money than not doing it.
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Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Never fell for this BS. Fuck elmo and fuck ironman too. No platform for fascism.
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I remember in the very early days not getting the full 'hype' of "MUSK IS SO SMART", but I enjoyed him as a "This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb becomes incredibly wealthy - he wants to throw money at space and technology. That's neat."
His PR guys must've done a good job at keeping the worst of his tendencies behind closed doors - or at least further than most casual observers would look. Around the time of the 'pedo guy' incident it began to unravel for me. Curious that a social media addiction undid all the work of his PR team.
I enjoyed him as a “This is what happens when some
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I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.
I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.
I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]All of his companies are complete garbage. Cars are a disgusting privilege literally destroying the planet. Colonizing space is a grift that does absolutely nothing for regular people on earth. Paypal jfc... Etc.
Never had a chance of changing the world for a better place. Didn't even try.
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Hindsight is 20/20. At the time i was willing to forgive a lot to get to Mars.
That's a shame because people buying into these obvious grifts is a major part of the problem.
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He transformed a car into space garbage for publicity in 2015.
Yeah I remember watching that and thinking "what kind of absolute dummy thinks this is cool?"
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A lot of people only knew him as the EV and space guy until the last few years. In that light he seemed alright.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He seemed alright... if you believe in grifter shit like EVs and Mars.
That's the grift.
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If you saw him as a hero at any point, you're not brighter than a MAGAt
Yeah some of these comments are only more confirmation.
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Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
I always saw Musk as a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing.
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Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
Comparing him to Tony Stark and Thanos is giving him too much credit. He's more like
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Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
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BLUE MAGA MODS DELETE THIS FOR RULE 2!!!
LOL
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Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
But Thanks did nothing wrong, he was the good guy in that story. Misunderstood, but he had the right idea.
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I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.
Here's the Blue MAGA hindsight.
And this gets deleted by the mods here for 'no politics'.
As if the post itself isn't.
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Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
Thanos is not much of a tweaker though.
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He seemed alright... if you believe in grifter shit like EVs and Mars.
That's the grift.
You can't expect everyone to do that kind of research on him.
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I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.
The way he removed the original founders of Tesla and have himself the title of founder says otherwise, he was never a nice human being.
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The actual public meltdown started there, but before that there was already a history of sales bullshit with unachievable promises with things like the hyperloop and solar tiles, which for those who were paying attention were enough to mentally classify Musk as part of the "Fishy and possible scam artist" category.
Musk hasn't really changed his swindling strategy much in the last couple of decades, he just started going beyond the script and sharing his actual opinions (which turned out to be "I'm a member of the Fascist elite" crap), possibly because the very cult of personality around him of all the fanboys made him think people loved him for him, rather than for the highly curate tech bro image (back when tech bros were seen as Heroes rather than Villains) he projected.
On point.
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We. Always. Knew.
Kay but that's honestly a pretty awesome getup. It's only cringe in retrospect knowing what we know now. If I saw someone like this on the street I'd think, "slay, dude."
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I have a not-quite-physics degree (I could not mentally bring myself to do the proper physics capstone, but I basically have a physics degree.) I have had multiple conversations with astrophysicists, astronauts, and people who know their shit.
It has always been abundantly clear to me that he has been full of shit. I had to play coy a lot because I had some association with NASA, but the man does not know shit about rockets or physics and it’s always been abundantly clear to anyone who does.
I doubt he could do a simple kinematics problem.
You could have let this be a top-level comment, but you chose to make it directly a response to mine about how I'm interested in hearing about people who didn't always know. Why did you do that.
