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'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'

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      Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.

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        Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.

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        Not to the same degree.

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          Not to the same degree.

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          My wall of shelves loaded with board games says otherwise...

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            Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.

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            I don’t think I’ve spent a dime on Epic but have a nice little collection going there. I have spent a reasonable amount at GoG and have a nice collection there, too.

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              My wall of shelves loaded with board games says otherwise...

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              When I say to the same degree I'm not saying there aren't people with thousands of games elsewhere. I'm saying there are more of them on Steam and they tend to collect higher amounts of games on average.

              Board game enthusiasts don't always have thousands of board games, most console gaming enthusiasts don't have giant walls of games lining their house, etc.

              That said, I don't have sources to cite here other than my personal interactions with other steam users on social media and my steam friends list number of games. I could be wrong as this isn't hard data but I'd bet money I'm correct though if there was a way to verify the comparison.

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                  Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.

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                  I know plenty of console gamers who buy physical copies of newest releases, complete them and sell them on local Craigslist equivalent. They hold a handful of games at most. Not really possible on PC anymore.

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                    When I say to the same degree I'm not saying there aren't people with thousands of games elsewhere. I'm saying there are more of them on Steam and they tend to collect higher amounts of games on average.

                    Board game enthusiasts don't always have thousands of board games, most console gaming enthusiasts don't have giant walls of games lining their house, etc.

                    That said, I don't have sources to cite here other than my personal interactions with other steam users on social media and my steam friends list number of games. I could be wrong as this isn't hard data but I'd bet money I'm correct though if there was a way to verify the comparison.

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                    Unfortunately, the article doesn't really compare to other collectors. My wife's bookshelves are full of a much higher cost library than my Steam library could ever hope to achieve, and many of them are still on her "TBR" list. She'll also never read those physical copies, so she's buying them twice so she can read them on her Kindle or listen on Audible.

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                      I know plenty of console gamers who buy physical copies of newest releases, complete them and sell them on local Craigslist equivalent. They hold a handful of games at most. Not really possible on PC anymore.

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                      I have a friend who buys every single console game released and never plays any of them. Physical copies georg is an outlier and should not be counted

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                        A bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly?

                        So... pirates?

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                          I have a friend who buys every single console game released and never plays any of them. Physical copies georg is an outlier and should not be counted

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                          Probably depends on location. Games are stupid expensive compared to typical income here. I make pretty good money but I wouldn’t be able to justify games at current prices if it wasn’t for second hand market and Game Pass.

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                            A bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly?

                            So... pirates?

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                            I would guess the line between the two groups is about one plank wide.

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                              When I say to the same degree I'm not saying there aren't people with thousands of games elsewhere. I'm saying there are more of them on Steam and they tend to collect higher amounts of games on average.

                              Board game enthusiasts don't always have thousands of board games, most console gaming enthusiasts don't have giant walls of games lining their house, etc.

                              That said, I don't have sources to cite here other than my personal interactions with other steam users on social media and my steam friends list number of games. I could be wrong as this isn't hard data but I'd bet money I'm correct though if there was a way to verify the comparison.

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                              Could that just be due to the fact that things like humble bundle would give 10+ games a month for like 20$? Or the amount of sales that steam has allowing you to get another another 10 - 20 games for 50$, or the price of a board game?

                              If Nintendo, still epic, or Xbox had sales of this magnitude I'm certain you would see significantly more "hoarding" there as well

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                                Are non-Steam gamers not also hoarders? Because if they are, that whole argument falls apart.

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                                I’m a console gamer, I’ve never cared about my library to the point I actually threw away games from previous gen’s once I got the new console. That was me as a kid mind you. Nowadays, I just don’t buy games at all thanks to gamepass. So yep it kinda tracks, at least anecdotally.

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                                  Or they just like a really good deal which is a known marketing tactic since buying stuff with currency was a thing? "99 cents for this thing I may or may not need? Down from two dollars?! Sold!" Maybe the term hoarders, as in people with an actual mental issue, is not the right term. More like frugal. Let's face it. Steam sales are when they sell the most copies of any title.

                                  Now if you are buying games at full price every time with no intention of playing, you're just a dumbass and need a lesson on the value of a dollar.

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                                    A bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly?

                                    So... pirates?

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                                    I think if I was irresponsible with my money, I'd be paying for games and pirating food instead of the other way around. 🤷‍♂️

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                                      He doesn't consider game bundles like e.g. humble bundle. There you can get loads of steam games which you might activate but only play a few from.

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                                        I think if I was irresponsible with my money, I'd be paying for games and pirating food instead of the other way around. 🤷‍♂️

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                                        Just pirate both and spend the money on gambling like a real pirate lol

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                                          I think if I was irresponsible with my money, I'd be paying for games and pirating food instead of the other way around. 🤷‍♂️

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                                          pirating food

                                          You wouldn't download a burger

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