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    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29414662

    A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.

    The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.

    Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

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      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29414662

      A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.

      The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.

      Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

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      OK… We all knew this in 2004.

      Is it suddenly more outrageous now?

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        OK… We all knew this in 2004.

        Is it suddenly more outrageous now?

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        It was bad in 2004 too, people just didn't realize that ICE was the Gestapo back then.

        The mask is off. That's all.

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          It was bad in 2004 too, people just didn't realize that ICE was the Gestapo back then.

          The mask is off. That's all.

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          You’re right that shit was also bad in 2004. But at that time, ICE had only existed for less than a year, so they were not the ones who were the Gestapo at the time. That was Homeland security, the DEA, and the FBI. In fact, homeland security was also extremely new, so it was mostly just the FBI, the DEA, and, degree, the NSA.

          I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that ice wasn’t really fully formed as an agency in 2004 like it is today, so if anyone was the Gestapo, they were probably not it. Not in 2004.

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            cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29414662

            A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.

            The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.

            Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

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            I noticed when you go through security now, they scan your face witg 2 cameras instead of 1. Is that related? Why do they do that?

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              I noticed when you go through security now, they scan your face witg 2 cameras instead of 1. Is that related? Why do they do that?

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              I didn't notice that, but I DO know you can opt out of those scans. I do it every time. I was told by one security agent that they don't store the images, but that doesn't mean they won't do so in the future! Also, during their beta, biometric data of many passengers was exposed through a breach.

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                I didn't notice that, but I DO know you can opt out of those scans. I do it every time. I was told by one security agent that they don't store the images, but that doesn't mean they won't do so in the future! Also, during their beta, biometric data of many passengers was exposed through a breach.

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                What do you tell them when you opt out?

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                  What do you tell them when you opt out?

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                  I say, (while out of range of the camera), "I'd like to opt out of the biometric scan, please." I also opt out my kid if they're with me.

                  I rarely get a blink. (There are signs saying you're allowed to opt out.) Though I wonder if/how that will change with RealID! I didn't get one because as of right now you can still use your passport, but I know they want everyone to have one.

                  ETA I have a whole section on this in the free book DISENGAGE: Opting Out—and Finding New Options—to Reclaim Your Life from Spammers, Scammers, Intrusive Marketers and Big Tech.

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                    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29414662

                    A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.

                    The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.

                    Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

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                    Literally every single online company is giving your data to law enforcement, often including real-time access.

                    This is the thing that Snowden leaked.

                    Facebook, Gmail, your cellular provider, Amazon, Credit Card companies, your bank, etc. They're all systems that law enforcement intelligence can access, probably without a subpoena (a business can choose to give up business records since they own them, you don't own 'your data').

                    If you're doing something online, or on your phone, you should pretend that there's a law enforcement officer sitting and reading over your shoulder because they effectively are. If they ever has cause to look at you they'll pull the history of your account (possibly limited to 30 days back but there's no guarantee of this) and see everything you've ever written and posted included things that you deleted.

                    If you did anything illegal they can use this information to start a new investigation, in addition to whatever investigation that led them to your account. This can allow them access to even more accounts.

                    So, if you're using any commercial service that holds your data, you should assume that a law enforcement officer is combing through your information and trying to find something to charge you with.

                    You should not use commercial services if you're in the US. I know I'm preaching to the choir in this community, but sometimes people need to see it written in black and white.

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                      You’re right that shit was also bad in 2004. But at that time, ICE had only existed for less than a year, so they were not the ones who were the Gestapo at the time. That was Homeland security, the DEA, and the FBI. In fact, homeland security was also extremely new, so it was mostly just the FBI, the DEA, and, degree, the NSA.

                      I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that ice wasn’t really fully formed as an agency in 2004 like it is today, so if anyone was the Gestapo, they were probably not it. Not in 2004.

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                      They used this access to suppress the Occupy Wall Street protests, including targeting the online activists, by designating it a 'counter-terrorism' operation.

                      If you participated in these protests online you'd suddenly find that the DEA knew about your marijuana use, the IRS decided that not filing your taxes was a criminal charge and your state and county police would receive 'anonymous tips' about any state laws that you were violating.

                      This was all because DHS intelligence services were combing through the online records of anybody that they could remotely link to these protests.

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