Donald Trump tells Canada to become a state to avoid his tariffs
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Reminder that Tariffs dont work as a threat to other nations.
The selling price is the same for the seller, they already give the lowest price they can profit from because the modern era allows international distributors to find a demand anywhere, the buyers are the ones paying the import tax for the same goods.
If you were selling and then the buyer had a tariff you wouldn't just agree to take less money as a result.
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I'm going to keep posting this every time I see a reference to US tariffs against Canada.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/
The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treaty in which Canada agreed to respect US copyright law in exchange for free trade. No free trade? Canada doesn't need to respect US copyright any longer and can become a flourishing economy of products to compete with US products that are massively overpriced. Think printer ink and other stuff.
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Isn't the point to make the domestic customers choose products from other nations? Why wouldn't that be a threat to the nation that is selling?
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I think it's a "threat" but not a very good one.
There might be 3 brands of toothbrush available to buy in the US but maybe all of them are manufactured in China. If you just tariff everything from China then US consumers will just pay more because there's no incentive for manufacturers to absorb the tariff.
It's a threat to Chinese toothbrush manufacturers because it creates an incentive for other manufacturers to pop up elsewhere, maybe someone will start manufacturing toothbrushes in the US. These toothbrushes would be cheaper than the tariffed ones for consumers to buy, but obviously more expensive than toothbrushes used to be before the tariffs.
In summary, because consumers are unlikely to buy less toothbrushes, they just end up paying more.
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Yeah but it only really works if it's targeted. Threatening blanket tariffs on countries that represent 60% of all imports (EU, China, Mexico, Canada) takes a bit of the impact away, it's unlikely domestic production could handle all that. Even if it could, why wouldn't American companies raise their prices as much as they felt they now could?
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The term 'magat' is just so on the nose, no matter how deep you go with the analogy.
A maggot is a mindless sack of flesh that wriggles and writhes all over itself and its neighbors, feeding on a constant diet of rot and decay. And if it survives that stage? It becomes a fly, attracted to steaming piles of shit, regurgitating the same diet that it feeds on just to consume it again, and then buzzing off to distract, annoy, and generally piss off the regular folk who are just trying to get on with their day.
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These toothbrushes would be cheaper than the tariffed ones for consumers to buy, but obviously more expensive than toothbrushes used to be before the tariffs.
I think this is my whole point? You'd obviously buy the cheaper one of the products are (fairly) identical. So the Chinese product is disregarded, and thus that market is being hurt.
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Probably true. I don't know enough to speak further down this line.
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Sure ok but to make that point you have to skip over all the other significant impediments to this plan.
You need to build, staff, and supply a local manufacturing plant for toothbrushes.
This is no small thing and not something that can be created overnight. It's not even as simple as "building" a factory... you need the supply chain, and most of the requisite supplies probably come from China - plastic to make the brush head, plastic to make the handles, machines to form the plastic, and technicians to maintain those machines. If you want to invent all these things locally and avoid the retaliatory tariffs from China, that's going to take decades.
During those decades consumers will be buying the tariffed Chinese toothbrushes wondering why the fuck everything from toothbrushes to shampoo to laundry powder to televisions costs twice as much as it does in any other country.
So my whole point is, there's a "threat" to Chinese producers but it's not very likely to materialise because the US will lose the political will to maintain the tariffs long before locally made products appear.
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I was thinking more along the lines of choosing other manufacturers that already exist, that don't have tariffs affecting them, but in case they don't (exist), you definitely have a good point from what I can understand.
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LMAO..
HE ACTUALLY SPOKE THE TRUTH,
that his intention is POSSESSION & SUBJUGATION/slavery, not collaboration-with??You will notice that this has been updated, with the head-wound "miraculously" cured,
..though I insist that the original-prophecy referred to mental head-injury's cure, & that that hasn't happened, yet..
You will notice that the ancient biblical prophecies were about someone extraordinarily possessive, eh?
I wonder just how much corroboration has to happen, before the Christians begin taking it seriously..
- shruggeth *
The ancient Jewish & Christian prophecies are accurate, in this case.. ( so are the Indigenous ones, but most don't care about those.. interesting, though, when such predictions get sooo much right, that's certain, in empiricism.. : )
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Trump won't tolerate the 2028 election to remove him.
The Civil War Part2 ocean-of-slaughter begins then.
Please do not rely on hopium to protect you & your loved-ones.
Please begin getting capable, or out, now.
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Sorry, but Kahneman1-mind, imprint->reaction mind, including all ideology/prejudice/"religion",
CANNOT solve the problem that Kahneman1-mind created.
Einstein got that right: a different level of mind is required to dismantle the problems created with a particular level of mind.
Cultivating automatic-prejudice against MAGA cult members just polarizes things even more.
Only Kahneman2-mind, considered-reasoning, CAN counter ideology's highjacking-of-the-entire-planet-for-its-tantrum, that it's working-up-to, this decade.
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You're misunderstanding the situation, then, sorry..
Trump isn't rational, he is narcissistic-machiavellian-sociopathic.
IF Canada retaliates like that, THEN Trump may well declare war against Canada.
They would only need to drop a single large conventional-bomb on Ottawa, & then claim Canada as their "manifest destiny", declaring all Canadians to be "illegal aliens & criminals", & their "problem" would be "fixed".
He may not have the guts to do that this-week, but he is progressing psychologically, & the end-point of that progression, about 4y in our future, is as the most-murderous-dictator-on-the-planet.
He will be the complete-set: narcissistic, machiavellian, psychopathic, nihilist, sadist, systemically-dishonest, & hate, before the transformation is complete.
Tread carefully, when one is near a heavily-armed psychiatrically-defective giant, eh?
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You will be waiting until 2031 or 2032, then.
He won't tolerate the 2028 election, so Civil War Part2 begins around then..
Only when "either his or NOBODY's" has finished butchering Turtle Island, will he be "finished".
People are living in hopium, instead of understanding the actual context, with the fascists allying globally, to butcher the whole world, for their "glory", or self-worship..
Please live strategically: too many are going to be wasted-lives, when things go to hell, for real: this is only the appetizer, I'm afraid..
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Sometimes I think you're right. Other times I think that couldn't possibly be true.
I've studied many of the bigger wars and they've all mostly have been started by far less severe events. It's scary that one person could wield all that power, unchecked and unaccountable.
It sounds like it's time to build a bunker.
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The antichrist is said to be given power for 42 months and then die in revelation so if trump dies July 2028 (Trump was given power in Jan 2025) then we may only have a few more years in this world. Enjoy it while you can. If you're lucky enough to enjoy it.