Me too, man
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Yep. Ours went from 0730 or so to 3:30. But it was a somewhat rural area, so if you took the bus you’d have to be on the bus by 0640-45, which means getting up at 0600 or so, and not getting home until after 4 pm. Then there was homework…
E: just looked at my former school’s sked. Started at 07:25AM.
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I guess I never really thought about it. Although now that i have kids that are young, I have to get my kid on a 7:20am bus, which means im up at like 6:45am, every school day, and it sucks. Then I relax for another hour and a half before I start my work at 9 am, lol. I will say the only nice part of starting that early is that they are done by like 2:45 while I am still working until 5 or 6 pm.
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this image really resonated with me:
it's from futurama btw, great show, i'm just re-watching it
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And god forbid your circadian rhythm doesn't align and you fall asleep in class.
You can get referred for a drug test because only high people fall asleep during the day.
You can get referred for a drug test because only high people fall asleep during the day.
Let me guess: Murica’ ?
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Hey what's wrong with going to bed at 8pm
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Hey what's wrong with going to bed at 8pm
The solace of burgling some joy out of life for the day despite its inevitable cost for tomorrow? I thought we all knew this
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Half of what public school teaches is just tax-funded brainwashing programs
(Private religious schools are 100% pure brainwashing)
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School is just to prepare you for working in a capitalistic hellhole.
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i still have nightmares about school
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Yep. Ours went from 0730 or so to 3:30. But it was a somewhat rural area, so if you took the bus you’d have to be on the bus by 0640-45, which means getting up at 0600 or so, and not getting home until after 4 pm. Then there was homework…
E: just looked at my former school’s sked. Started at 07:25AM.
And god forbid you do a sport or have a job after school
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Hey what's wrong with going to bed at 8pm
My mom don’t get home until 9pm most days from her second job. Sometimes later. My dad was a truck driver so I barely saw him. No one really taught me to take care of myself so I was stuck eating tv dinners most of the time. In that scenario going to sleep at 8pm is damn near impossible.
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Yea that only happens because capitalism needs your parents to slave their ass off which can only happen if their kids go to school earlier than their already early starting job
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Then you get old and look forward to getting in bed by 8PM.
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Schools - and some businesses - see getting up early as some kind of achievement, a trait to be proud of. A thought that was mirrored in the influencer scene with the insane 'grindset' videos. Get up early and get done more than the others... Completely ignoring that the amount of sleep we need doesn't change with how early you get up.
Some people get up early and have no problem with that, but that's not the case for everyone. In the dawn of time, it was better to have some people who get up early and some who prefer to stay up late: that way the tribe was better protected because the time where everyone was sleeping was minimized.
Now everyone who biologically tends to be more productive when they can work late and get up late is painted as lazy and forced to work against their inner clock.
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Schools - and some businesses - see getting up early as some kind of achievement, a trait to be proud of. A thought that was mirrored in the influencer scene with the insane 'grindset' videos. Get up early and get done more than the others... Completely ignoring that the amount of sleep we need doesn't change with how early you get up.
Some people get up early and have no problem with that, but that's not the case for everyone. In the dawn of time, it was better to have some people who get up early and some who prefer to stay up late: that way the tribe was better protected because the time where everyone was sleeping was minimized.
Now everyone who biologically tends to be more productive when they can work late and get up late is painted as lazy and forced to work against their inner clock.
Actually, many teachers oppose early start times, and perfect attendance awards are disappearing every year, too.
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Unpopular opinion, even if people didn’t wake up at 6:30 people would still be complaining [insert time here] is to early
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Hey what's wrong with going to bed at 8pm
Well, when you get out of your after school activities around 1700-1800 hours, and then have to spend another hour or two, minimum, on homework and projects, and then want to have a little bit of socializing and play squeezed in after the required time spent with family....
Yeah, good luck with that 8pm thing.
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Every year I tell timetabling "don't inflict 9am classes on my students, it provably punishes poorer students (commute costs) and drives poor engagement", every year they ignore me.
Many of your teachers hated morning classes too.
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"Should" is doing some heavy lifting here.
Sleep patterns start changing around puberty. Young kids tend to get up earlier, naturally; teenage biorhythms are tuned to stay up later, and sleep late.
But we don't have a society where it's safe to let teens run around by themselves, except for some rural communities, so schedules are based - as GP says - around parent's schedules. And because of workplace demands, whether it's a reasonable requirement because the job demands an in-person presence like the service sector, or because of idiotic, arbitrary in-office policies, that usually means parents need to have their kids in school before 8, or 8:30 if they're lucky, so they can be at their desks by the standard 9am.
Little kids, this is less of an issue, but it really fucks with teenager's biorhythms, because they're designed to be sleeping until 10 and going to sleep at midnight at that age.
There's a ton of studies about this, and there's been a lot of work by K-12 to figure out how to accommodate a balance; and some companies even have policies allowing for flex time to help, but on average - as usual - Corporate America fucks it up.
But we don’t have a society where it’s safe to let teens run around by themselves,
Really? By all accounts it is safer now than ever AND has tracking if you want. Add to that the fact that every teen I know left to their own devices would not bother running around anyways. They would stay at their computer/tablet/phone as long as they could.
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Schools near me have shifted high school start times to later. Its been that was for years now.
It is really weird to see it in mainstream news now, and even RFK is for it (that fucking weirdo).
I thought letting teens sleep in late was blue state woke and would never be nationwide.
Fox news found a Hypnotist that said teens should sleep later. A hypnotist... really fox? Even when they are right they are still stupid fucks.
