What is the general global opinion people have on Qatar and Pakistan?
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Pakistan: No opinion really. I used to know a guy from there - a real hoopy frood.
Qatar: No opinion there either. My only connection to the country have been quite a few layovers in Doha.
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Pakistan: No opinion really. I used to know a guy from there - a real hoopy frood.
Qatar: No opinion there either. My only connection to the country have been quite a few layovers in Doha.
The Hammad airpord is lovely. The layovers I expect must've been good.
I also always love a hitchhikers reference.
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
Global opinion?
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
Qatar as a labor exploiting oil nation, yep.
Pakistan I don't associate with those things. I mostly associate them as the good guys in the culture war with India that causes Indians to come on to America social media and post the most deranged broken English shit you've ever heard about Muslims.
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Global opinion?
Just meant the opinion of people outside these two places.
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Qatar as a labor exploiting oil nation, yep.
Pakistan I don't associate with those things. I mostly associate them as the good guys in the culture war with India that causes Indians to come on to America social media and post the most deranged broken English shit you've ever heard about Muslims.
Well then mate, let me just tell you. Pakistan is just as bad as India lol. Two sides of the same coin.
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Well then mate, let me just tell you. Pakistan is just as bad as India lol. Two sides of the same coin.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]As far as I've seen, they're not matching Modi's Hitler vibes, but you likely know more than an ignorant outsider. I mostly just hate fascists and see India as incredibly problematic.
Maybe just the power dynamic. India is far more powerful, although they both have nukes.
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As far as I've seen, they're not matching Modi's Hitler vibes, but you likely know more than an ignorant outsider. I mostly just hate fascists and see India as incredibly problematic.
Maybe just the power dynamic. India is far more powerful, although they both have nukes.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You could say there is no central figure as modi is in India. Imran Khan was the closest but Pakistani politics is fractured.
Plus the actual political power lies with the military here. So they chose who they want as president. They wanted Khan and they bought him in, he became a threat and they kicked him out.
Right now khan would dominate the public vote but where is he? In prison.
The people here are very culty and rage plus hate fueled. Its less visible bc it's not that big online.
Infact we keep banning social media sites since literally every government is a religious fascist anyways. Twitter was big here and they banned it. YouTube was banned years ago.
The people in power are genuinely a combination of vile and stupid. The media .... just as bad
I agree India is a problem. The culture is rotten to the core. Modi is one of the most disgusting modern figures and yet flies under the radar
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Qatar as a labor exploiting oil nation, yep.
Pakistan I don't associate with those things. I mostly associate them as the good guys in the culture war with India that causes Indians to come on to America social media and post the most deranged broken English shit you've ever heard about Muslims.
What about the terrorist camps in Pakistan?
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You could say there is no central figure as modi is in India. Imran Khan was the closest but Pakistani politics is fractured.
Plus the actual political power lies with the military here. So they chose who they want as president. They wanted Khan and they bought him in, he became a threat and they kicked him out.
Right now khan would dominate the public vote but where is he? In prison.
The people here are very culty and rage plus hate fueled. Its less visible bc it's not that big online.
Infact we keep banning social media sites since literally every government is a religious fascist anyways. Twitter was big here and they banned it. YouTube was banned years ago.
The people in power are genuinely a combination of vile and stupid. The media .... just as bad
I agree India is a problem. The culture is rotten to the core. Modi is one of the most disgusting modern figures and yet flies under the radar
That's a shame, I didn't realize how culturally isolated they were. I appreciate the redirection of my black and white analysis to a more nuanced one. I would always research a topic much more if it wasn't specifically about my general vibes on it.
How do you feel about Qatar's labor abuses such as confiscating passports?
I see that https://rch.qa/qatar-labor-law-can-your-employer-legally-keep-your-passport/ shows this is now strictly illegal, but also understanding how employer employee power dynamics affects legal systems I'm dubious of real change having happened.
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What about the terrorist camps in Pakistan?
As someone who always does critique Pakistan I wanna say Pakistan is a massive victim of terrorism itself.
Whether it was us funded, pak funded or India funded. All are too blame. The same goes for Afghanistan. So many innocent people have died in these wars and issues that were forced upon us, the people.
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That's a shame, I didn't realize how culturally isolated they were. I appreciate the redirection of my black and white analysis to a more nuanced one. I would always research a topic much more if it wasn't specifically about my general vibes on it.
How do you feel about Qatar's labor abuses such as confiscating passports?
I see that https://rch.qa/qatar-labor-law-can-your-employer-legally-keep-your-passport/ shows this is now strictly illegal, but also understanding how employer employee power dynamics affects legal systems I'm dubious of real change having happened.
In regards to Qatar: Yeah there is some pressure to end it from up top. And the people are afraid of the qatari government, especially if you don't hold a qatari passport.
My dad knows the industry VERY well. The issue hasn't been eradicated. The smaller businesses especially those owned by non qataris (and i won't get into the business structures required since its beneficial to have a qatari have 51% ownership) are too scared to fuck around and find out, yet they do sometimes.
Bigger companies can do whatever tf they want as is the case everywhere in the world.
When I was in school my school took our teachers passports. Thats when I learnt of this rule. Bizzare. But Qatar treat foreigners, particularly south Asians and Africans as disposable.
'Westerners' are valued and seen as human, will be paid 10× what a black or brown person would.
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Wrote this in a hurry and made gpt rewrite it for better eligibility.
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No Path to Belonging
Expatriates remain outsiders regardless of time spent in the country. There is no permanent residency or citizenship pathway unless born to a Qatari man. -
Rigid Social Hierarchy
Discrimination based on nationality and appearance is widespread. Qataris are at the top, followed by Westerners, then Arabs, East Asians, South Asians, and Africans. -
Racism and Social Isolation
Locals often show disdain toward expats, maintaining distance and superiority. Even children reflect this behavior, which goes unchecked. -
Growing Hostility
There’s a rise in anti-expat practices: visa cancellations, lack of NOCs, unpaid wages, delayed payments, and demotions. -
Selective Immigration
Qatar now seeks only skilled Western professionals. Lower-income workers are being sidelined as the country distances itself from its labor-reliant past. -
Poor Driving Culture
Despite excellent roads, traffic behavior is reckless. Qatar has one of the highest road fatality rates per capita. -
Limited Legal Protection
Court proceedings are in Arabic. Legal aid is costly and inaccessible for many, leaving expats vulnerable. -
Unprofessional Business Environment
Unpaid salaries, ignored contracts, and delayed invoices are common. Accountability is rare. -
Disrespect for Time and Order
There’s no functioning queue system. Nationals are prioritized regardless of wait time. -
Overpriced Housing Market
Rent is high, quality is low, and buying property is nearly impossible for expats. -
Language Exclusion
With 60% of the population not speaking Arabic, government services remain largely inaccessible to non-Arabic speakers. -
Rising Costs
Utilities, telecom, and daily expenses are increasingly unaffordable, with some of the world’s highest rates. -
Lack of Entertainment
Cultural and recreational options are limited, contributing to a boring lifestyle.
Qatar’s modern exterior hides outdated laws and systemic inequality. The promised post–World Cup transformation never arrived. For many expats, the country feels hollow.
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As someone who always does critique Pakistan I wanna say Pakistan is a massive victim of terrorism itself.
Whether it was us funded, pak funded or India funded. All are too blame. The same goes for Afghanistan. So many innocent people have died in these wars and issues that were forced upon us, the people.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]That can be said for almost every country out there. By your logic we would never be able to blame any country for anything.
Everything that happens within a country's border is the responsibility of no one else but the country itself. Whether intentional or not, they need to take accountability for it.
I'm not saying 100% of the people there are guilty, it's just that if not for the country and their government who do we hold responsible?
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer>
Could you please say a few words about the situation for young people (say 15-25) in Pakistan? What are their dreams and aspirations? Main differences between socioeconomic groups of youth? Main conflicts and disagreements with older generations? View of the world?
I fully realise that this is a huge and complex question and that it will be very difficult to generalise. Any response on these kinds of questions would be much appreciated though!
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]my super-ignorant American take:
Pakistan, really really hates India. I hope it can be healed but I don't know enough to dare saying how. Poor but admirable aspirations at space exploration. Zealous about parenting and proud of their culture. Probably more similar to my own background than a lot of people would feel comfortable admitting.
Qatar, rich from oil deals with America. Corrupt but it's our fault for lavishing them while we raped the rest of the middle east for plunder. Intolerant but could probably be won over to be less outwardly hateful of new ideas since they've tasted wealth and desire to join the international community. The things that their religion makes them hate tend to be things that most other Abrahamic religions also hate, which could be grounds for friendship? I don't think it works like that but it's fun to joke.
Americans are pretty racist but these two nationalities get less hate than others. Or would if American's bothered to learn the difference. Most of us can't point to Qatar on a map. I hope this was amusing to read.
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I know this is random. I live in these two countries moving bw them so I wondered.
Mostly I know what people think of each, but I did wonder if there was a difference in opinion here in a more leftist space.
Qatar as the labour exploiting oil nation?
Pakistan the third world country culturally like India with Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists etc?
PS. If you have any question about either, happy to answer.
Knowing almost nothing about any of them: seems like okay places to live (at least as a dude), but evidently if you're more used to comforts you'd rather live in Qatar than Pakistan. But Pakistan seems to me to be culturally 'richer'. Their food is probably great, and Qatari food is probably good and healthy.
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You could say there is no central figure as modi is in India. Imran Khan was the closest but Pakistani politics is fractured.
Plus the actual political power lies with the military here. So they chose who they want as president. They wanted Khan and they bought him in, he became a threat and they kicked him out.
Right now khan would dominate the public vote but where is he? In prison.
The people here are very culty and rage plus hate fueled. Its less visible bc it's not that big online.
Infact we keep banning social media sites since literally every government is a religious fascist anyways. Twitter was big here and they banned it. YouTube was banned years ago.
The people in power are genuinely a combination of vile and stupid. The media .... just as bad
I agree India is a problem. The culture is rotten to the core. Modi is one of the most disgusting modern figures and yet flies under the radar
Ahh fuck.
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Knowing almost nothing about any of them: seems like okay places to live (at least as a dude), but evidently if you're more used to comforts you'd rather live in Qatar than Pakistan. But Pakistan seems to me to be culturally 'richer'. Their food is probably great, and Qatari food is probably good and healthy.
Well kind of but kind of not. In Pakistan we got a massive house, maids, drivers, garndener etc. Since its a very highly populated country even a middle - upper middle class family can afford to employ people.
Yes Pakistan also just feels more like an actual real country.
Having said that it depends on what you think of as comforts, there's many comforts that i still have in Qatar that i don't in Pakistan.
Food I love in both places.
