Trump-Zelenskyy meeting live: White House talks break down
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I kinda want more articles about what people are saying. Like I get that Trump did X and we aught to know about it - but what about the people on Truth Social? Is it just a powerful echo chamber or?
Edit: yes, I say this because I feel like vomiting when I think of visiting that place.
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Which will mostly impact Canada and Ukraine. Other nations will suffer economic losses, which will cause periods of global instability. Most will have to adapt to the new multi-polar world and watch to see how quickly and how far America's madness extends.
Will democracy return there? Will Fascism continue there? We shall see.
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I sure hope not
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You can't keep playing defense forever
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‘Zelensky’s meeting with turd and soup degenerates into shitfight as turd shits himself and falls off his chair while VP soup almost chokes on his own tongue and has to be resuscitated by marshals’
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This means so much to me just to know that there are people who feel this way.
Can’t tolerate all the negativity towards Ukraine anymore. Some people don’t know what they’re talking about, but just like being angry about shit. But my relatives are there!
So yea, Thank you from the bottom of my heart for these words! -
Haven't read it but here's my guess as to its contents:
Chapter 1: "Repeat yourself and rant and scream and claim how offended you are from a mighty position of power while demanding more respect and groveling."
Chapter 2: "If they finish a sentence, you've already lost."
The rest of the book is blank.
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This depresses the ever loving fuck out of me as a father. When I was a kid, I genuinely looked up to the president, and the thought that if I worked hard, I could conceivably (with very slim odds) be president one day. Now, my kids will see that the way to succeed is to lie, cheat, steal, and grift. It's fucking disgusting.
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I honestly think, were they here today, everyone who penned the Declaration would consider this douchebag's shoe prints to be more a desecration to the office than if King George III waltzed in and took a dump on the desk.
That sounds like pure projection to me.
This republican rhetoric is getting tiresome isn't it? Their entire propaganda strategy is to blame everyone else for distasteful things they're literally in the middle of commiting themselves.
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Man, this must really fucking suck for you, I'm sorry. I can only imagine how Zelenskyy feels leaving that room, I feel really bad.
Kind words are not going to work any more. Americans need to get their house in order. If the majority of American should have voted against Cheeto and this wouldn't be happening. That didn't happen so now you need to protest, get out there and show Elmo and Trump that this isn't what you want. Force him to step down and get someone else in, this is nuts.
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working for the interests of Putin.
I seriously don't understand the endgame here. I know wealthy elites and war criminals don't seem to have borders, and just grow like an invasive fungus wherever is favorable, but the entire reason this prick even ran was just to avoid jail for his numerous crimes in the USA.
What does he get if he gives Putin everything? What does he get if he starts WWIII? Do he and his bully cohorts retire to Switzerland or something? Hide out in hidden mansions in South America?
What is the motivation for this absolute insanity?!
I know rightoidism is a death cult, but is the plan to literally Judgement Day the planet or create an unstoppable Russo-Chinese world duopoly or what?!
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My dad, a Canadian living in Asia, is a trump supporter. This is exactly how our conversions go over the phone until I hang up.
I couldn't watch this all the way through. When we argue its just bullshit. Zelenskyy has peoples lives on the line and there's no talking to him. I feel so bad, how I feel after getting off the phone must be nothing like how he feels right now.
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This seriously felt like being yelled at and talked down to by tryhard managers at some shitty retail job.
They just bust right out the gate with rambling, they're so upset, they demand respect, you need to apologize, you should be grateful, blah blah blah.
Treating a part-time employee like that should get your teeth kicked in. Treating a world leader like that?! MAN.
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I have even more admiration for Zelenskyy after that. He kept his cool through the completely inappropriate behavior, while respectfully maintaining his stance. His commitment to his people over his own ego made him the only adult in the Oval Office today.
This was humiliating for Americans. I would’ve been less embarrassed had JD started fucking the Oval Office furniture.
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I'm transcribing it so people don't have to watch. CSPAN has deleted some of the texts, so I'm not positive it will have everything, but I can't bear to check everything. I know to check if they misspell a word fantastically though, that's probably a tell.
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Blackmail is coercion by using the threat of exposing evidence of wrongdoing. Extortion is coercion by the exertion of inappropriate leverage; for example a "protection racket" is a form of extortion whereby a criminal organization guarantees protection (often from itself) in return for payment.
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Haven't read
Neither has Trump.
His ghostwriter did his best with the limited information Trump gave him to work with.
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I just watched the last half of the full meeting. Zelensky asked what guarantees there are the Russians won't just invade again. The subtext of which is an offer to house US troops in Ukraine. But all the fucking clown car heard was a challenge to their machismo.
So they shouted him down and just loudly asserted he would either sign their deal or fight it out. Along the way they manage to insult him by treating him like a child and pretending that previous broken agreements, (invasion of Crimea, Invasion of Donetsk, and Invasion of Ukraine) were because Putin didn't respect the American President enough. But Putin is also the victim in all of this according to Trump.
I've seen better diplomacy from a high school football team.
For more subtext, if there were any real guarantees then this would not have happened in the meeting with the press. Zelensky would have told reporters there were guarantees. This entire blow up means that Trump already told him there would be no guarantees other than the honor system. Which, even if Trump is right, (Putin respects Trump and won't invade while he's president), Zelensky knows that means Putin will invade again in 2028 after Trump's term is over. And that's without getting into all of the implications about Putin holding this over Trump's head for concessions so Trump can appear to be the peacemaker.
I agree with Trump on one thing. We're fucking around with World War 3, but Trump isn't a peacemaker, he's Chamberlain. Right down to berating the leaders who are asking for help to stop the aggressive country.
