Can't make this up
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Trump bragged about having the tallest building in NY after terrorists took out the Twin Towers on 9/11. Then, 24 years later, he complimented and shook the hand of a man who
orderedinspired and cheered for the attacks, in front of the US Secretary of Commerce whose brother and staff were killed.But sure, tell me how the front-runner for mayor being a member of the same religion is the bigger deal.
That's quite a claim to provide without evidence.
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Bending the rules is very much a part of Orthodox Judaism for sure - it's the only way to exist in today's world. I've heard (from an Orthodox Jew I worked for) that priests talk to God and Rabbis argue. Questioning - or rather, being critical of - your faith is encourage.
But most jews in New York aren't Orthodox. Most don't even go to Temple weekly.
Fair, I like that analogy. I realized that the way I phrased it sounded rather dismissive of the practices which, honestly, I am, but it seemed overly harsh, so I deleted it
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I just connected it now. Is all the 911 drama actually about a mayoral candidate being a muslim? Are you fucking serious. I though i couldnt be any more dissapointed in people but apparently ive just been proved wrong again.
Remember that he's got the votes though. He's still got the general election to go through but despite all this hatred ... a majority saw through it. Let's hang onto some hope. The world is so shitty right now.
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New York Jews are not extremists, though? They're just normal people who happen to be Jewish
Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn't claim all Jews are extremist, it's also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal.....which is a matter of perspective.
Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.
Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.
This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.
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Betar, famous for anti-semetic attacks on jews critical of Israel. They forced a "pager" in to the breastpocket of Norman Finkelstein and called him a holocaust denier of all things. His entire family was exterminated ffs.
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Fair, I like that analogy. I realized that the way I phrased it sounded rather dismissive of the practices which, honestly, I am, but it seemed overly harsh, so I deleted it
I'm not Jewish myself but it's a really cool religion. Not that you asked, but my favorite rule bend in my time working with the Orthodox fellas was "shabbat mode" on his automation system. Using electricity is fine but they can't use any sort of switch (flipping a switch = creating a tiny spark = creating flame, which is prohibited) so there was the obvious lighting automation BUT his wife requested an automated outlet in the kitchen and I asked by boss why...it was so she could plug in a hot plate before Sabbath and it would turn it on at 6 so she could serve a warm meal.
I really disliked that client but I loved that shit.
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I'm not Jewish myself but it's a really cool religion. Not that you asked, but my favorite rule bend in my time working with the Orthodox fellas was "shabbat mode" on his automation system. Using electricity is fine but they can't use any sort of switch (flipping a switch = creating a tiny spark = creating flame, which is prohibited) so there was the obvious lighting automation BUT his wife requested an automated outlet in the kitchen and I asked by boss why...it was so she could plug in a hot plate before Sabbath and it would turn it on at 6 so she could serve a warm meal.
I really disliked that client but I loved that shit.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]HAHA, if nothing else, that's certainly a justification.
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Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn't claim all Jews are extremist, it's also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal.....which is a matter of perspective.
Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.
Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.
This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.
The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don't have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups. And it's not even like orthodoxy is even "extreme"
A fraction of Jews are Orthodox and a fraction of those Orthodox Jews are extremists. So yeah, I wasn't 100% correct but it's not even in the same ballpark as what I replied to.
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HAHA, if nothing else, that's certainly a justification.
We're clever creatures and I like that a religion recognizes that so deeply
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Isn’t that a MAGA dog whistle that Trump uses?
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That's quite a claim to provide without evidence.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I was referring to Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa aka: Abu Mohammad al-Jawlani. I read that he was directly responsible for the attacks when the video first released. Now there’s more information available, and it appears he just inspired and cheered for them. I edited my comment for accuracy.
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Isn’t that a MAGA dog whistle that Trump uses?
last I heard everything is a dog whistle for everything
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The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don't have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups. And it's not even like orthodoxy is even "extreme"
A fraction of Jews are Orthodox and a fraction of those Orthodox Jews are extremists. So yeah, I wasn't 100% correct but it's not even in the same ballpark as what I replied to.
The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don't have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups
That's the thing with ethno-states, you don't have to be religious to be a nationalist. It's not just orthodox Jews who have a problem with Palestinians. Hell, you don't even have to be Jewish to have extremist views about the genocide in Palestine. You could be orthodox, a secular Zionist, a right winged nationalist, or you could even be vicariously motivated evangelical who thinks a war in the holy land will spark the second coming. Are those views "normal"? Not to me, but I'm not exactly in charge of making those opinions for others.
As I said, it really depends on what your perspective is when it comes to what qualifies as normal.
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last I heard everything is a dog whistle for everything
Yeah my understanding of dog whistles is about as thorough as my ability to hear them, seems like it's a code that changes every day
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Isn’t that a MAGA dog whistle that Trump uses?
It's something he's started putting at the end of his tweets. I assumed it was dementia not a hidden message.
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I was referring to Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa aka: Abu Mohammad al-Jawlani. I read that he was directly responsible for the attacks when the video first released. Now there’s more information available, and it appears he just inspired and cheered for them. I edited my comment for accuracy.
And you still managed to provide zero evidence.
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LMAO imagine going on a schizo rant just because the winning major candidate is of a different religion that you don‘t like. Almost as if religion is used as a tool for power and legitimization of violence against innocent people.
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Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn't claim all Jews are extremist, it's also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal.....which is a matter of perspective.
Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.
Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.
This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.
Less than a month after the attack that began this whole thing new york jews weee marching against genocide with a fair bit of frequency. I only know this because I visited a Jewish friend there at the time and kept hearing complaints about how several of these protests were having the jewishness of them ignored.
New York jews are normal Americans. Unfortunately yes that includes the aspect where they're likely to mythologize and idealise their ancestral homeland. But much like other Americans, many are incredibly critical of it or don't care or any other opinion.
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Remember that he's got the votes though. He's still got the general election to go through but despite all this hatred ... a majority saw through it. Let's hang onto some hope. The world is so shitty right now.
NYC has despised trump for decades, as have most large cities. The GOP's grip on federal power has never depended on winning the blue cities.
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There is a socialist on the loose in New York City!
Come home brother! Your true home! Your calling is to be a genocidal maniac with us! Think of the land we’ll steal! The children we’ll murder! It’s our destiny!
