Workers at NASA Told to ‘Drop Everything’ to Scrub Mentions of Indigenous People, Women from Its Websites
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These science institutions shouldn't be used for fucking politics.
You'd think, huh? Daamn, that's crazy
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Just did yesterday after putting it off for some months
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Hidden Figures. More or less "The Help" for NASA dweebs.
It concedes that black women were instrumental in developing and executing a successful space race, but gets really cagey around questions like "Why did NASA only have a White Men's Restroom to begin with?", "What caused us to omit people like this in films like Apollo 13 or The Right Stuff?", and "How come the women who pioneered implementation of Fortran at NASA weren't able to pivot into senior administrative roles, private contracting firms, or academic positions like their male peers?"
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Bro, if you're going to be sarcastic, at least try to sound smart. You just need to read the title to see its fucking propaganda from the opposition.
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everything is political. you are advocating that these institutions pretend observer bias doesn't exist.
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Imagine dreaming to fly to space only to be denied having it because you’re not indigenous and they haven’t met their arbitrary quota of indigenous people.
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Imagine beeing this fragile.
I'll spell it out for you honey. As long as we don't offer the same privileges white people have to all people, we need a qutoa to level the playing field.
I know that doesn't fit your ideology. Doesn't change how it's true tough.
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What advantages does NASA give to white people that it would have to compensate for?
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*wave hands*
As a white middle aged man my privilege is everywhere. The problem is the people that don't see it everywhere. The world is run by my peers to this day and yet you have some of my spineless peers screaming bloody murder because black people should be offered the same odds getting a job if they're qualified.
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I'm glad you asked. For example this meta study, that looked at many experimental studies in 6 different western counties, shows how racial discrimination is a problem when hiring. This has been demonstrated in experimental research by sending two resumes to different workplaces. They show the same level of qualification, but one of them is from a white on one from a person that is not. You do this a lot, like 200 times with 200 employers and see how often both candidates are invited.
And consistently you can see that white people are invites, while racial divergent people are not.
From the meta study this reads like this:
Persistent discrimination in labor markets in North America and Europe has been demonstrated most clearly by field experiments in which investigators use testers or submit applications by mail or over the internet for jobs with clues indicating the race or ethnicity of applicants (5–7). These experiments show that on average in Western countries native Whites receive about 50% more callbacks than similarly qualified non-White applicants (5).* This does not include significant additional discrimination that occurs after the callback (8).
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Cool study. What evidence is there that NASA has an unfair hiring practice they need to adjust for?
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I’m doing my part!
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The study is evidence that there is a systemic disadvantage for non whites when hiring.
Why should this not be the case at NASA? What makes NASA so special that findings, that showed true on a systemic level across six countries don't apply to it?
If you are interested, NASA did an audit on their progress on including DEIA in 2023.
https://oig.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/IG-23-011.pdf
Despite support from Agency leaders and multiple initiatives to increase diversity, we found NASA has made little
progress in increasing the representation of women and minorities in its civilian workforce or leadership ranks.
Specifically, over the past decade NASA’s overall workforce demographics have stayed roughly the same, with small
increases (1 or 2 percent) for some groups. Demographics have not varied significantly over the same time period at
individual NASA Centers, with only two Centers increasing African American representation and other Centers making
small gains in Hispanic, Asian American, and women’s representation. We also found NASA has made few gains in the
percentages of women and racial and ethnic minorities in its senior levels (General Schedule 14 and 15 positions and
NASA’s Efforts to Increase Diversity in Its Workforce
RESULTS IN BRIEF
Senior Executive Service) over the decade. At the same time, the proportion of veterans NASA hires has declined over
the past 10 years, most significantly from 28 percent in 2015 to 13 percent in 2021 -
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Bro DID YOU READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE?
Who do you think made that article?!
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Sounds like they were already only hiring qualified people.
Forcing DEI where there was no problem causes a problem.
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So you don't see the discrimination against non white people as a problem then?