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'For too long, Apple has operated a walled garden around its products': The EU forces Apple to open its closed system to third parties

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    I honestly don’t get it. It’s their product. Why are entire countries getting involved in how they make their own devices?

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      With android you can change the os if your into it, developer at least.

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      Some phones only. Or at least that is how it used to be when I had one not too long ago. The boot loader had the be unlocked and some apps like banks or Google pay refused to work at the time (or maybe it was if you had root enabled).

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      • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

        Yeah I was looking into Linux based mobile OS’s and I’ve come to the consensus that hardware selection is very limited.

        I was very interested in GrapheneOS but unfortunately it’s for Pixel phones only.

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        dint notice that, i though OP12r could do it too.

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          Home assistant is great and apart from voice recognition, its infinitely more powerful than any corporate home automation product. Voice is tough to do locally and on low powered hardware, but its getting there.

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          they have something that claims to be able to do it, I haven't personally verified it, but generic on device voice recognition has gotten pretty decent.

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            Graphene works on the OnePlus, I'm not a developer so I haven't tried anything in changing the Os. And pixels problem is with the obsession with Gemini AI and the exonys chip they are using that drains the battery

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            It's not officially tested anymore tho - they've recently updated their supported devices section. Stuff like the fairphone, which was supported once, also are no longer in the list.

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            • rhoeri@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

              I honestly don’t get it. It’s their product. Why are entire countries getting involved in how they make their own devices?

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              It is in the public interest to regulate companies. This is the best tool we have to promote a healthy market with fair competition, and to ensure companies make safe products that aligns with the public interest.

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                It is in the public interest to regulate companies. This is the best tool we have to promote a healthy market with fair competition, and to ensure companies make safe products that aligns with the public interest.

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                Perhaps instead of watering down one company, maybe all the others should be inspired to make better quality products that can compete with them.

                Because- and this is only my opinion, allowing governments to control how a company manages their IP is a slippery slope to go down.

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                  Perhaps instead of watering down one company, maybe all the others should be inspired to make better quality products that can compete with them.

                  Because- and this is only my opinion, allowing governments to control how a company manages their IP is a slippery slope to go down.

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                  But what if a company is too powerful and has an unfair advantage in the market?

                  For example: Say a company is able to make excellent ear buds – the best in the market. Apple obviously doesn't want to loose out on AirPods profit, so they then decide to deliberately make it a poor user experience to use other ear buds on Macs and Iphones. Now it is impossible for better ear buds to compete with AirPods because Apple abuses an unfair market advantage. Furthermore, this heavily decentivices other companies from even entering the market.

                  I see your point about the dangers of allowing governments to overregulate companies, but it is also dangerous to let companies freely do whatever they want. Share holders will happily screw over consumers and society for a tiny increase in profit.

                  In my opinion, right now there exists too many unhealthy markets – especially in technology – and I would like to see more regulations akin to what EU is doing. US is dropping the ball hard on this one.

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                    But what if a company is too powerful and has an unfair advantage in the market?

                    For example: Say a company is able to make excellent ear buds – the best in the market. Apple obviously doesn't want to loose out on AirPods profit, so they then decide to deliberately make it a poor user experience to use other ear buds on Macs and Iphones. Now it is impossible for better ear buds to compete with AirPods because Apple abuses an unfair market advantage. Furthermore, this heavily decentivices other companies from even entering the market.

                    I see your point about the dangers of allowing governments to overregulate companies, but it is also dangerous to let companies freely do whatever they want. Share holders will happily screw over consumers and society for a tiny increase in profit.

                    In my opinion, right now there exists too many unhealthy markets – especially in technology – and I would like to see more regulations akin to what EU is doing. US is dropping the ball hard on this one.

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                    I get what you’re saying, and while I don’t have a better solution to offer- I just know that the solution they’re offering now is a bad idea. It’s opening the doors to govt/nation controlled IP.

                    And that is bad for everyone.

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