Marine Le Pen banned from running for public office after guilty verdict
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French courts are independent. She will appeal, and another court will condemn her and her friends in appeal.
The evidence is multitudinous and straightforward.
Countries that have special rules for powerful people are the fascist ones.
No one in this thread is saying she shouldn't be punished for her crimes.
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Bro, are you fighting this with whataboutism and false equivalency ? Troll detected opinion rejected
It's not whataboutism if it's on the same topic. I just raised a very real example where this is problematic.
In the near future, I bet we will see the same in America.
And what in this is false equivalency? We're talking about banning criminals from elections, right?
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Yes, she's a horrible person. I still think she should be in prison and be allowed to contest in elections. I would never bote for her but that's a separate topic.
Who the hell votes for a convicted felon?
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Enforcing laws on rich/powerful, novel concept in some lands.
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Hitler was sentenced for 5 years too lmao
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Funnily enough, when the law was introduced a few years ago, her party wanted the penalty to be lifelong ineligibility. They are probably happy it's 5 years, now.
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Not to defend Le Pen but barring opponents from elections is on page one of the fascist playbook.
"Being really well dressed and using style to win people over is in the fascist playbook as well. Therefore drag queens are fascist."
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I never said it was corrupted. I said in general, courts van be corrupted. See the supreme court of the USA for a recent example.
Ok, but in general so can any organisation/institution become corrupted. So can your local authority or the upper management of where you work or the local school board or the organisers of your favourite activity club.
Your statement is tantamount to saying "corruption exists and is bad". Well yeah, it has since people put a name to greed.
Its good to keep an eye out for it, but unless there's growing evidence for the case that French courts have been corrupted, like how there's now a mountain's worth for the US supreme court, then it's not being skeptical it's being very cynical.
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For just five years, though. Don't bury the lede.
It's 5 more years than any other recent fascist has gotten
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Of course Le Pen's reaction is that this is politically motivated. I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of this case, but am assuming the verdict is sound. Reactions like this are in my mind more serious than the actual offence; they undermine the rule of law. If found guilty in her appeal they should take this reaction into account and ban her from office forever.
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So presidential! She could be our new president here in the US! Imagine that! First Felon woman president!
Man! We're busting glass ceilings!
A woman? That sounds like DEI, that's not allowed in the US of Trump.
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What AMerica should have done with Trump
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What AMerica should have done with Trump
Worse than that would be justified.
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Now do Farage.
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Good. In my country, a former PM who embezzled 1.6B is on the verge of being set free, with little in the way of jail time, while a construction worker who stole a loaf of bread got 40 years. Wtf.
Wait what's the bread story?
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Good. In my country, a former PM who embezzled 1.6B is on the verge of being set free, with little in the way of jail time, while a construction worker who stole a loaf of bread got 40 years. Wtf.
40 years for a loaf of bread?
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I don't know how politicaly motivated the harshness of the judgment was (and not in a "the politics in power wanted her gone", more in a "the judiciary system realised shit is hitting the fan between US crazyness and Russian influence and decided to take a step and make an example") but the evidence were damming.
Proof is: the defense didn't even try to fight the evidence, rather the interpretation of it and the harshness of the sentence.
Another point to keep in mind: an ex president is being judged for corruption and the sentence requested by the DA is enormous.
Apparently the judiciary system publicly told they wanted to put an end to a perceived leniency on the politics and regain public trust.I'm just afraid this will result in an opposite effect.
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40 years for a loaf of bread?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-spent-36-years-prison-stealing-50-bakery/story?id=65264675
I was wondering if this was the case? Apparently it was because it was a fourth offense and the law was strict about sentencing no matter what.
Which is a thing I find utter bullshit BTW. No crime that petty should be punished that bad.
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Funnily enough, when the law was introduced a few years ago, her party wanted the penalty to be lifelong ineligibility. They are probably happy it's 5 years, now.
Nah, always projection. Who would expect them to commit fraud if they wanted life long ineligibility?
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-spent-36-years-prison-stealing-50-bakery/story?id=65264675
I was wondering if this was the case? Apparently it was because it was a fourth offense and the law was strict about sentencing no matter what.
Which is a thing I find utter bullshit BTW. No crime that petty should be punished that bad.
At least he wasn't a slave for 20 years.
And most countries fail to even have revolutions.