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Child labour with 10 years of experience, 'AI-native' accepting 250k lines of Cursor code

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  • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

    He is being presented as a person who is being tasked with writing entire code bases and the same job as a senior developer. Even if we give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he is being paid handsomely (which I doubt since we are all very well aware of the mentality of such people whose sole goal is to use AI coders to pay as less as possible, none if possible), the responsibilities involved in this is a full time job, not the part time job most high schoolers do during summer time. Even then it is not "common" for high schoolers to work unless you have never left US. In many places, there are some that do unfortunately do need to work due to economic reasons. But rarely outside of US it is presented as excellent work ethics and patriotism. It is more common for people in mid to late university years to start working as "interns" not full time developers. Also see:

    https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/children#%3A~%3Atext=The+Convention+on+the+Rights%2Can+earlier+age+of+majority.

    "The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a "child" as a person below the age of 18, unless the relevant laws recognize an earlier age of majority."

    So if you are going to boast about a kid who is producing massive code bases, at least say something like "wow he is still not eighteen but look at what this kid is doing", do not try to present that as the new norm. That is just pathetic greedy skill-less, spineless wanna-be intrapreneur behaviour.

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    AI makes it pretty trivial to vomit out large amounts of code. 250,000 lines is nothing. The code quality is garbage, of course, and will be hell to maintain in the coming years. It will likely just be rewritten again if the company is still around.

    If there’s one thing high school students have a ton of it’s free time. When I was that age I put thousands of hours into video games and got nothing to show for it. I applaud this kid for turning his high school hobby into a paycheque.

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      He is getting paid $15.50/hr
      Which is the state minimum wage.

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      I assumed they were in Estonia from the names

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      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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        Why the fuck does he have 2 Laptops and 2 additional monitors? It would annoy the hell out of me having to reach out to change something on one of the laptops.

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        • cows_are_underrated@feddit.orgC [email protected]

          Why the fuck does he have 2 Laptops and 2 additional monitors? It would annoy the hell out of me having to reach out to change something on one of the laptops.

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          You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

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            I knew more than a few 17 year olds who dropped out of high school to work full time. One was emancipated. A few eventually got their GEDs. It's not an easy life, but it's reality for a lot of people.

            If he's capable of handling that level of responsibility I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to. If he's not capable, then the only person being harmed is his employer. Only thing I'm concerned about is whether or not he's being compensated fairly.

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            Yes but I think the abnormality here is the guy trying to sell this as the new normal, not even to mention all the associated problems with basing an entire code base on AI (which is a different problem than boasting about getting kids to write your whole code base but related)

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              This has to be rage bait.

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              • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                Yes but I think the abnormality here is the guy trying to sell this as the new normal, not even to mention all the associated problems with basing an entire code base on AI (which is a different problem than boasting about getting kids to write your whole code base but related)

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                Yeah, the whole situation is definitely eyebrow raising.

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                  250000 lines accepted.

                  While attempting to fix 3 individual issues.

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                    He posted an update:

                    At this point, I'm half convinced he's a masterful troll.

                    He's from Norway, so being a troll feels on brand.

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                      I hate the future.

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                        He posted an update:

                        At this point, I'm half convinced he's a masterful troll.

                        He's from Norway, so being a troll feels on brand.

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                        "Hey kid, hold still while we throw some fake money on you and take a photo. It's for marketing."

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                        • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                          He is being presented as a person who is being tasked with writing entire code bases and the same job as a senior developer. Even if we give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he is being paid handsomely (which I doubt since we are all very well aware of the mentality of such people whose sole goal is to use AI coders to pay as less as possible, none if possible), the responsibilities involved in this is a full time job, not the part time job most high schoolers do during summer time. Even then it is not "common" for high schoolers to work unless you have never left US. In many places, there are some that do unfortunately do need to work due to economic reasons. But rarely outside of US it is presented as excellent work ethics and patriotism. It is more common for people in mid to late university years to start working as "interns" not full time developers. Also see:

                          https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/children#%3A~%3Atext=The+Convention+on+the+Rights%2Can+earlier+age+of+majority.

                          "The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a "child" as a person below the age of 18, unless the relevant laws recognize an earlier age of majority."

                          So if you are going to boast about a kid who is producing massive code bases, at least say something like "wow he is still not eighteen but look at what this kid is doing", do not try to present that as the new norm. That is just pathetic greedy skill-less, spineless wanna-be intrapreneur behaviour.

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                          Everyone is talking as if he was a real person.

                          He's clearly AI generated.

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                          • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                            guess how much people are gonna charge them for debugging 250K lines of AI code or better yet probably writing everything from scratch

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                            The latter sounds a lot cheaper.

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                              He posted an update:

                              At this point, I'm half convinced he's a masterful troll.

                              He's from Norway, so being a troll feels on brand.

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                              Sorry but what even is a 'technical 1v1'?

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                                He posted an update:

                                At this point, I'm half convinced he's a masterful troll.

                                He's from Norway, so being a troll feels on brand.

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                                https://www.userjourneys.ai/

                                Does anyone want to actually schedule a call?

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                                  250000 lines accepted.

                                  While attempting to fix 3 individual issues.

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                                  Just imagine the slop.

                                  I'm imagining functions that only exist to fix the incorrect output of other functions, God knows how deep.

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                                    Child labor? He's a senior in high school, it's common to have a job at that age.

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                                    Most people turn 18 during the last year of high school, which means that there is a very significant chance that the dev in question is still covered under child labor laws.

                                    Maybe it is because I grew up in the North East United States, but when I was in high school, my classmates only worked seasonal or afternoon jobs.

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                                      Most people turn 18 during the last year of high school, which means that there is a very significant chance that the dev in question is still covered under child labor laws.

                                      Maybe it is because I grew up in the North East United States, but when I was in high school, my classmates only worked seasonal or afternoon jobs.

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                                      The high school I went to let seniors who had jobs leave at noon. They took the core classes but not electives and were allowed to graduate as long as their boss confirmed that they were working and not just skipping class. It was legal.

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                                      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]
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                                        lol. Meanwhile record numbers of tech grads are working non-tech jobs.

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