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  • K [email protected]

    How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know

    At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.

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    At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why.

    Julius Streicher was also a human being. He was hanged at Nuremberg for the same kind of hate-mongering that Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of crimes against humanity.

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    • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      One was Fox News

      Shocking

      the other was PBS news

      No, it wasn't. Bullshit.

      don’t forget the 247 (/s) random politicians who condemn political violence.

      Okay. That's just what they feel they have to do for appearances. Even the ones who actively wish for political violence (Trump) say that shit. No one should be surprised there.

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      I watched PBS news tonight as well, and what AndiHutch said was pretty much right on.

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      • C [email protected]

        His last words

        He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied "Too many"

        He was corrected, the number is 5.

        He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)

        He asked back: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" and got shot

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        He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.

        I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They're guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.

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        • jimmux@programming.devJ [email protected]

          I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?

          I guess we'll never know.

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          It was more anti-trans hate mongering. 2 or 3 trans shooters out of 5700 is nothing. If you can whittle down the number of "mass shootings" to just a handful of incidents, can make it seem like trans people are vastly over-represented among school shooters.

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          • I [email protected]

            What? The US negotiates with terrorists all the time

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            You seem to misunderstand. We don't negotiate. We supply them because they're killing people we want killed, or we blow them up.

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              Don’t feel any empathy when Nazis get hunted

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              When I hear Nazi I think of concentration camps and killing Jews. Kirk was a big supporter of Israel. Does Nazi just mean conservative fascist now? And if so is B. Netanyahu a Nazi? That seems weird.

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              • I [email protected]

                You're desensitized to violence. Not something to be proud of or encourage 😟

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                Do you say the same to those somehow still supporting Israel’s genocide in Gaza when there is vastly more grotesque footage? Or for the slaughtering and rapping in Ukraine with now years of footage? Or those enabling the children being blasted away in schools across the us on a daily basis, including yesterday? 🧐

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                  When I hear Nazi I think of concentration camps and killing Jews. Kirk was a big supporter of Israel. Does Nazi just mean conservative fascist now? And if so is B. Netanyahu a Nazi? That seems weird.

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                  Yes Netanyahu is a Nazi

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                  • K [email protected]

                    I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose to have a piece of shit for a father.

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                    Yeah. Nobody should have to watch their parent or child die. Guy was a waste of oxygen but I hope the kids get plenty of therapy.

                    Moving forward may the world be a slightly better place, where these conservative grifters are tempered slightly by the fear they might end up like Charlie here.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      There's a long list of people taking our liberties away, and the guy who says stupid shit is pretty far down on that list. Words matter, but they're not violence.

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                      Why do you think the actual white power, right extremists are getting closer and closer to power everywhere? Why is there is a spike in young men leaning right? Because they listen to assholes like this one. Words are very dangerous in the long run.

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                        I'd like to ask a general question that I'm not entirely sure I can give enough context for.

                        When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?

                        Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.

                        When did we start caring about high schooler's opinions on a national level?

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                        We always have and it's how the left has lost young men. Counterculture and much progressivism has always been young men meeting up to consume drugs and engage in pseudointellectual conversation. Each generation had them, the hippies of the 60s, punks of the 80s, beatniks of the 50s. However the counterculture spaces of growth and optimism men created grew to resent and exclude them, and they have been scooped up by the testosterone peddling rage dealers that pull them in by their curiosity and desire to better understand and affect the world and themselves. There they are twisted into being dependent on a guide to get them through the delusional world they then believe in.

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                          To be fair, using his talking points that made him one of the biggest cunts on the planet as justification to be just like him, its pretty wild. He was cunt, there no doubt about that. But his death brings that question back onto you. Are you going to celebrate the death of a 31 year old man just because you didnt like the dumb shit he said? If the answer is yes, you might not be the good guy you think you are.

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                          • jimmux@programming.devJ [email protected]

                            I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?

                            I guess we'll never know.

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                            our gangs of forcefemme communists are very trans and very violent, yes

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                              They didn't seem to care when it was Paul Pelosi, or the two democratic politicians that were assassinated in their homes.

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                              • phoenixarise@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                Fuck him. ❤️
                                ::: spoiler Spoiler

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                                spoilers please

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                                • frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.worldF [email protected]

                                  I hate how some are trying to spin this as "he was killed just for having different opinions" like no, he didn't just have "different opinions" that's grossly oversimplifying things, he advocated for the genocide in Gaza, said kids being shot in school is "worth it" because "god given rights" (which version of the Bible had assault rifles in it?) ridiculed disabled people in his circles, and said if his 9 year old daughter got raped he wouldn't allow her to have an abortion

                                  All while in a position of authority and power with influence over a significant portion of people. How anyone can sympathise for him I don't know

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                                  If they're "just words" then why are they so butthurt over our words? It's just words when I say "Charlie Kirk deserved what he got". What's the big deal???

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                                  • I [email protected]

                                    You're arguing for parochial empathy over real empathy.

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                                    Exactly the opposite. We should have empathy, tolerance, and inclusiveness for all, unless people choose to exclude themselves from that collective. I’m saying those who only have parochial empathy shouldn’t expect to receive empathy from others they’ve already cut themselves off from, and it’s not something those they shut out to be shamed for that they experienced the repercussions of their actions.

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                                      Do you say the same to those somehow still supporting Israel’s genocide in Gaza when there is vastly more grotesque footage? Or for the slaughtering and rapping in Ukraine with now years of footage? Or those enabling the children being blasted away in schools across the us on a daily basis, including yesterday? 🧐

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                                      Yes, as the decensitivation is a necessary element for the continuation of the violence

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                                        GOP heard they'd be getting tots and are trying to hide their disappointment that you meant the potato product.

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                                        dude it's tots how are you sad? get me some franks red hot it's happy time

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                                        • jaymesrs@piefed.worldJ [email protected]

                                          Exactly the opposite. We should have empathy, tolerance, and inclusiveness for all, unless people choose to exclude themselves from that collective. I’m saying those who only have parochial empathy shouldn’t expect to receive empathy from others they’ve already cut themselves off from, and it’s not something those they shut out to be shamed for that they experienced the repercussions of their actions.

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                                          You are describing parochial empathy, with the caveat that somehow you think it's different when you do it.

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