I don't give a shit about Charlie Kirk, rest in piss, but my celebration is mildly stunted by the fact that this is a dangerous thing to normalize and this is a massive notch in that direction given how huge of a public figure he was and the nature of his assassination being so public.

Of course, the right is largely responsible for that normalization, and Charlie Kirk's death is actually on people like Charlie Kirk's very hands. However, for me its just the consequences and the dark future that this seems to push us further into.

Hopefully the right fails to capitalize on his death effectively and we move onto largely forgetting about the piece of shit.

I don’t know what “sionisom” is but to answer your question. Nazi, is a good way to describe a genocidal facist. The Nazis do appear to have aligned with Zionist in modern times. Nazism and Zionism are very similar because they both have goals to create a white ethnostate. The brand of nazism we are seeing in the United States is targeting and scapegoating (hallmark of Nazism) the homeless, and Latino communities. People are being disappeared off the streets without due process or accountability. In Germany the worst concentration camps were on foreign soil during the holocaust so the United States shipping people to Africa and El Salvador should worry even the most skeptical critic. RFK has talked openly about sending people with mental illness to camps. He also has openly made blanket statements about autistic people not having a life worth living.

How do you unfuck this mess?

Your last sentence is what I've been worried about as well. We all know Trump is a blathering idiot, but he's chomping at the bit to use military powers on US soil, and so far has been with no real reason. He could very easily use this as an excuse to further deploy troops and/or push more of his fascist agenda.

Honestly I wonder how much they're going to steer that narrative, even if it was a conservative.

They want pity and/or retribution for him for him, then there's a list he needs to get on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Hortman

Imagine a scene where 2 new people come to your house for a party made up of people from many backgrounds, one is kind and the other is hateful and verbally abuses and bullies the one who is kind for something they have no choice over such that they leave your house. Then seeing this one of the other party members kicks the bully out of the house for them being massively rude. Now being massively rude and dehumanizing to others is an active choice one makes, that’s not a outgroup that one is in through any choice but their own. The party itself is still widely diverse accepting all who preserve the welcoming spirit of the party.

You’re arguing that the rest of the party should feel bad for the asshole that was kicked out.

Sure. Even if the raw numbers said that say, trans people are 1% of the population, and 1.5% of shooters, that would still be a meaningless figure. The sample size is too low to make any meaningful conclusion.

But the point is even if you don't apply statistics, even using the sample we have, trans people are vastly under-represented among shooters. We represent about 1% of the population and 0.1% of shooters. You don't even need to apply statistics. The numbers on their face show that there is zero evidence that trans people are over-represented.

Now, statistically, I would say that there is insufficient evidence to suggest that the rate of trans shooters is any different from the overall population, higher or lower. But there is less than zero evidence that trans people are over-represented.

The trans shooter myth is simply blood libel.

I mean, most gang activity comes from young black men, but that does not mean it's racist to talk about it. I think talking about whether to include or exclude "gang violence" from a conversation about mass shootings is appropriate and not offensive in the slightest.

Imagine they end up framing luigi for this too

Not have Trump as president right now is a small first step.

This person is correct.

I just read somewhere that... well maybe this was an inside job? The reason being is that since Trump's creepy as fuck birthday letter became public, he needed something big to distract and shut down discussion so he had Kirk shot?

He doesn't need an excuse though. He's going to do it no matter what happens. There is absolutely no hope he won't, just because you don't make a fuzz about it. It's not like he's just now thinking: "well now they've done it! They've gotten violent! I gotta make concentration camps, and use military personel and weapons to quell their protests, and maybe even attack the whole democratic process!". He's already doing it.

Was it by peacefully protesting, and asking them to please, oh please! stop? 'Cause if it was, the american people are right on track to winning this one!

Putin is definitely on that list.

Except the word nazi denotes and is defined by the hate of Jews.

You might say that sionists and nazis are similar, but they are categorically different. Or it would be slightly self-destructive as a Jewish state to want to exterminate all Jews, dont you think?

Sounds like a personal failing to me.

He was a human being who tried every day to be and say as inhumane shit as possible. Fuck anyone so willing to betray humanity.

Comical to me how many people in soooooo many posts about this just HAVE to go out of their way to note they aren't celebrating or some blah blah about any human dying.